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Designing Women S4 E10 - Old Widow Shively

Updated: Apr 1, 2023

Suzanne and Mary Jo are the team up we didn’t know we needed. They’re on the prowl to find Mary Jo a man – and armed with the newest, hottest dating how-to book – nothing’s gonna stop ‘em now. Nikki also sidebars on funny notes left on cars. Come back Thursday for an “Extra Sugar” taking a closer look at trendy dating guides.

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Salina: Hey, Nikki.

Nikki: Hey, Salina.

Salina: Welcome back.

Nikki: I can hear you now.

Salina: Oh, that's good.

Salina: We've been having some trial and error.

Salina: Not me.

Salina: I don't know anything.

Salina: I just sit here.

Nikki: Apparently I don't know everything because I was like, I can't hear a thing, and I'm just going with it.

Nikki: And then I realized I really couldn't hear a thing.

Salina: Yeah, but here you are.

Nikki: I'm here.

Nikki: You're here.

Nikki: I'm here.

Nikki: I hear things.

Salina: I think I hear things, at least somewhat.

Nikki: I hope you hear things.

Salina: Yeah, well, as long as I'm recording.

Salina: You see my audio.

Nikki: You're recording?

Nikki: I see you.

Salina: Okay, I'll take it.

Salina: So welcome, everybody, to where we are tired, fiddling around with the mic, just still going.

Nikki: Yeah, fine.

Salina: So it's early, but even though it's early, I'm thinking about pi already.

Salina: Yeah.

Nikki: Oh, Salina.

Salina: Well, I think it's because we just passed Pie Day 3.14.

Salina: Pie Day, that is.

Nikki: Did you have pie that day?

Salina: I did not have pie that day.

Salina: I have pie leading up to okay.

Salina: The middle of the week.

Salina: If I eat pie in the middle of the week, things go downhill rapidly.

Nikki: We had deep dish pizza pie.

Salina: Oh, yeah.

Nikki: Kyle had the kids, like, worked up about Pie Day.

Nikki: They were very excited.

Nikki: I think it was because it was an excuse to have pizza.

Nikki: And so he got them really excited about Pie Day, and then they forgot about Pie Day because it doesn't mean anything to them.

Nikki: It barely means anything to me.

Nikki: And so I said something later, and he goes, fine, we just won't have the pizza.

Nikki: Nobody cares about Pie Day but me.

Nikki: And I was like, why do you care?

Salina: Let's talk about that.

Salina: Because he wants pizza in the middle of the week.

Nikki: Maybe that was it.

Salina: I have this sneaking suspicion that Nicki Maze doesn't allow pizza a lot during the week.

Nikki: I don't.

Nikki: It's true.

Nikki: I try not to.

Salina: So he was like, Pie Day.

Salina: He said I planned out for months on his personal not family Google calendar.

Salina: He's like, start dropping him.

Nikki: I can't remember if we've recorded since his we've recorded since his birthday.

Nikki: I can't remember if I said that one of the things I bought him for his birthday was a Chicago special food box.

Salina: Yeah.

Nikki: Did we talk about that here?

Salina: I think so.

Salina: Okay.

Nikki: And so one of the things I got him was two deep dish pizzas.

Nikki: It came with, like, a pack of two.

Salina: That's what you all ate.

Nikki: So, yeah, we had one on his birthday.

Nikki: The other's been in the freezer, and we ate that one.

Salina: How was it?

Nikki: It was very good.

Nikki: It's very small.

Nikki: Very small for a family of four.

Nikki: So we finished, and I was like, okay, well, where's the rest of the pizza?

Nikki: Pie for Pie Day?

Nikki: And he's like, yeah, no, we're done now.

Salina: I wonder what the breakdown is on whether more people eat pizza for Pie Day.

Salina: Or people eat dessert for Pie day.

Nikki: That's a really good question.

Nikki: There aren't a lot of standalone pie restaurants and stores.

Nikki: There's, like, Crave Pie and Duluth thinking about near us.

Nikki: But you don't really have that many pie stores.

Nikki: You have a lot of pizza restaurants.

Salina: That's true.

Nikki: And they all capitalize on it.

Nikki: They all make Pie Day a thing, even for people like my kids who don't even understand what 3.14,764,255 are.

Salina: You doing that for real?

Nikki: No, it'd be way more impressive.

Salina: Yeah, I know.

Salina: I think it was, like 3.1415, and that's as far as I can go, I think.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: There's, like, Atlanta influencer, and she said she was like, I can do 40 of the numbers, and then did a poll, and so she was 40.

Salina: It was very impressive.

Salina: It went on for a long time.

Salina: Like, when she did it, of course.

Salina: I guess I could do that, too, right?

Salina: I feel like 8743.

Nikki: Yeah, if 90% of people don't know.

Salina: I mean, no one's going to brag about doing that unless they can really do it, right?

Nikki: I would hope so.

Salina: That would be kind of weird.

Salina: Yeah, but anyway, so pie Day is what I'm saying.

Nikki: No Pie Day.

Nikki: Sorry.

Salina: Which is sorry for we've been talking about it, but I just don't want to talk about, like, math pie.

Nikki: No, that's fine.

Salina: I want to talk about the pizza pie.

Salina: Sure.

Salina: But anyways, on the dessert pie, so what I did because we did I'm assuming you saw it.

Nikki: I did.

Nikki: I want the whole story behind it, though.

Salina: Often I'll make it sound like you and I are, like, just hanging out every day, eating pie together, and I.

Nikki: Always want to comment.

Nikki: I always want to comment and be like, I didn't have any of this.

Salina: I think I'm referring to me and Casey.

Nikki: She goes on and on about, like, she's baking things and cooking things and putting things in the feed.

Nikki: I never get any of that stuff.

Nikki: I didn't get this cherry pie.

Nikki: And you go on and on about how you can't bake, and then you bake a freaking pie.

Salina: Okay, so I will have you know that this is what happened.

Salina: So when I saw Pie Day was coming down the path the pike the thing, the pie.

Salina: Yeah, down the pie.

Salina: Down a pie.

Salina: Anyway, when I saw that it was coming, I was like, oh, we got to do something for this.

Salina: So I started looking at Southern Living, and I'm like, how many people have turned this off now?

Salina: Just tune back in.

Salina: It gets good.

Salina: It's getting good.

Salina: And I started looking at Southern Living because they were like, I don't know, 40 of the best pies or something.

Salina: And I'm scrolling through, and I'm like, too hard, too hard, too hard, too hard.

Salina: I can't do this.

Salina: I really wanted to make buttermilk pie or vinegar pie because I do think those are quintessentially Southern but then I'm looking at them and I was like, isn't it just like vinegar in here or something?

Salina: I know it's like a teaspoon, but otherwise it's just like pie or something.

Salina: And buttermilk sounded like it would be easy.

Salina: No, they both seem really hard.

Salina: So I get down to this pie that's not even Southern, but it looked good and there's like three ingredients and I was like and it's like, go ahead and just get yourself a refrigerated crust.

Salina: I was like, I would love to get myself a refrigerated.

Nikki: You 100% should.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: Every time people I talk to who bake and do all that, they're like, don't make your own crust.

Salina: It's just heartache.

Nikki: Too many ways it could go wrong.

Nikki: And the store bought ones are so good.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: So I did a shaker.

Salina: Lemon pie.

Salina: As in like not the Quakers, but the Shakers.

Nikki: Sure.

Salina: Because I think people might read that and be like, are you shaking the lemon around or something?

Salina: Anyways, but it was in a Southern Living article, but it's not really a Southern dessert.

Salina: But I think they were saying I guess there's like some famous Southern cookbook.

Salina: It's probably that one Southern cooking or something.

Salina: And I think it appears in there starting in the they just pick it up every year or something.

Salina: This is me trying to remember something from two weeks ago, so bear with me.

Salina: But anyway, so that's the pie I made, and it's just two lemons.

Salina: This is hilarious.

Salina: Two lemons to two cups of sugar.

Nikki: Holy moly.

Nikki: Oh my God.

Salina: I almost felt guilty giving it to my family.

Salina: Almost because it was my grandparents 80th birthday last weekend.

Salina: My grandma loves lemon.

Salina: And so that was the other thing, is I was like, oh, my grandma love it.

Salina: Yeah, so you put the sugar on like, really thinly sliced lemons.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: And then you just like let it it's not the same thing you do with kind of what you would do over heat, but there's no heat.

Salina: What's it called?

Salina: Macerating or something?

Salina: I just cuss.

Nikki: That sounds right.

Salina: Okay.

Salina: I said something dirty or right?

Salina: I don't know.

Salina: Okay.

Salina: But anyways, like, you let it sit there for at least 4 hours.

Salina: I let mine sit for like a whole day.

Salina: And then you just take four eggs, mix it with those lemons and the sugar into like a frothy something, and then you just put it in a refrigerated pie crust.

Salina: And then you take another pie crust, crimp it on the sides all around, cut some venting in it, and then it's so funny, I looked up a picture of one afterwards and I was like, why are my vents like a football?

Salina: Everybody else's are very different, but it's like not a baker.

Salina: And then you just bake it and it was delicious.

Salina: It's kind of like, I assume like an easier version of doing a lemon tart.

Salina: Because if I did, like a real lemon tart.

Salina: That sounds complicated.

Salina: Maybe I'm wrong, but probably not much.

Nikki: Harder than what you did.

Salina: Okay, I would guess, but that's what it sort of tasted like was in the vein of that, and it was so good.

Salina: And I was really scared because it's me.

Salina: And even though you think I'm doing it all the time, I don't know what I'm doing ever.

Salina: Anyways, all to say that we can drop that recipe in the show notes and stuff.

Salina: Nikki, I'll drop it in.

Salina: I gave her the link.

Salina: She doesn't know yet.

Salina: And then if anybody wants to make it, I would just say that is, like, actually a really easy dessert.

Salina: One tip tip before we jump into this show is that I had to bake mine longer than what it says.

Salina: It could have been fear based because I didn't want to get a big bite of egg.

Salina: And that's not really good for you.

Salina: But, yeah, I had to check mine and keep baking.

Salina: It probably about 20 minutes longer than the holy moly.

Salina: I may have been over.

Salina: I'm over the top.

Salina: But there's some, like, raw flour because of the crust.

Salina: And then undercooked chicken are, like, two things that really scare me, and I turn into a real weirdo over it.

Nikki: Really?

Salina: Yeah.

Nikki: I have not worried a day in my life about raw flour really, ever.

Salina: It's supposed to be you can get oh, no.

Nikki: I know.

Salina: Sick.

Nikki: I have not worried.

Nikki: It's like it's like eating cookie dough.

Salina: I know.

Nikki: I don't worry about it at all.

Salina: Yeah, I probably at one point had like a pound of cookie dough somewhere in my bowels.

Salina: So on that.

Nikki: Oh, boy.

Nikki: Speaking of bowels, go to the bowels of Designing Women.

Nikki: Salina's over here talking about bowels.

Nikki: That'll sure land her a man.

Nikki: Like this week's episode, manhunt.

Salina: There you go.

Nikki: When you didn't look at me all excited about my transition, I started thinking, was that a bad transition, or did I get the episode wrong?

Nikki: We were talking about getting the episode.

Nikki: It's like mixing up what we're recording.

Nikki: I say it, and then when I don't immediately get feedback from you, I'm like, am I on the wrong episode?

Nikki: And is she trying to think how to tell everyone?

Salina: I might be right here being like, where am I?

Salina: Hold on.

Salina: Who are we?

Salina: We're here.

Nikki: We're here.

Nikki: Designing Women's Season Four episode Ten manhunt the Hulu episode description is afraid of being an old maid for the rest of her life.

Nikki: Mary Joe accepts Suzanne's help in finding a new Boyfriend air date December 4, 1989 and we're calling this one old Widow Shively.

Nikki: It's written by Pam Norris and directed by David Trainer.

Nikki: So let's start with general reaction, stray observations.

Nikki: You got any general reactions you want to start with?

Salina: So I would call it maybe more of a specific reaction.

Salina: But as I was watching this one, I couldn't help but think the whole time that this plotline, like, what it would look like if we updated it.

Salina: Oh, my gosh.

Nikki: Yeah.

Salina: So I thought about that a lot, and I think I found something that could work.

Salina: Do you want to hear my idea?

Nikki: Let's hear.

Salina: Okay.

Salina: Maybe we reboot.

Salina: They were going to I don't know what happened.

Salina: Probably the pandemic.

Salina: Anyways.

Salina: So Suzanne would be helping Mary Joe set up a profile on a dating app.

Salina: I'm going to say she would have suggested hinge.

Salina: I don't have any evidence behind that.

Salina: It's just the one I think they would do anyways.

Salina: So let's just say I would foresee an awkward series of dates.

Salina: What's the rule of three?

Salina: Probably I'm guessing we get three dates and then including someone who's like, really kind of weird.

Salina: There's like some comedy ensues there.

Salina: She gets someone who's really shy.

Salina: Finally she hits the jackpot, but she quickly learns he's married.

Salina: And then maybe we could even bring in that too good to be true teacher plotline at the end.

Salina: Yeah, you could still have that.

Nikki: I was thinking of it as thinking about the locations where they went.

Nikki: And so would those locations if you're assuming like, a giant generalization about men is still appropriate in 2023.

Nikki: If we were redoing the show, the places they went, how do we feel about those as locations to meet men?

Nikki: One in general, like even in the 80s, early 90s, but even today, has that shifted a little bit?

Salina: That's a great way to look at it.

Nikki: So, like the mechanical class, do they even have mechanical classes anymore?

Nikki: Like at the local college?

Nikki: I'm sure they do, but is that a place people I would never think to go meet men there?

Salina: Yeah.

Nikki: Wouldn't have occurred to me.

Nikki: It was a stroke of genius.

Nikki: Definitely for that time.

Nikki: Oh, my God.

Nikki: The bathroom.

Nikki: I had such a reaction to that.

Nikki: I was like, you are certain to find one that's like fish in a barrel.

Nikki: They have to go there.

Nikki: But is that where you want to meet them?

Nikki: No, I don't think so.

Nikki: I also was thinking about the vegetable bin at the grocery store.

Nikki: I get the thought behind that, but I just don't think that's the place to go either.

Salina: It's very phallic.

Salina: I'm just saying.

Salina: I'm going to go ahead and skip ahead.

Salina: I think I have this somewhere else as like some kind of reaction that I had.

Salina: But I'm embarrassed every time I have to pick out cucumber zucchini.

Salina: I really related with Mary Joe, and she was like I was like, oh, my God, me too.

Salina: If there's even someone nearby, I'm like, I'll just go get some tomatoes first.

Nikki: The only one that would make me laugh is an eggplant.

Nikki: Just because of what it means and emojis.

Nikki: That's the only one that would make me laugh.

Nikki: I can handle cucumber.

Nikki: I can handle any of the other ones.

Salina: It's a good point.

Salina: I don't think I've ever bought maybe once I've bought an eggplant.

Nikki: Yeah, no, I don't buy eggplant.

Nikki: So I'm glad because it would embarrass me.

Nikki: Yeah.

Nikki: I did think that potentially a pet store would be a good idea.

Salina: Okay.

Nikki: And also maybe Home Depot, if you could stand man splaining for a little while.

Nikki: But I do think if you're going to generalize where men are, home Depot or Lowe's would be a great place.

Salina: Yeah.

Nikki: Okay.

Nikki: I think it's also maybe my special brand of man, which is like, trying to fix things on his own.

Nikki: But you could also meet both kinds of men, the ones that are who successful and the ones who still need help.

Salina: Yeah.

Nikki: And both kind of appeal to me in different ways.

Salina: Fair enough.

Salina: All right, NIKKI'S figuring out her ways to figure out a man.

Nikki: I'm working on it, Kyle.

Nikki: Keep that in mind.

Salina: JK, what did you have?

Nikki: So I think, generally speaking, this was like a super silly episode, which, you know, I really enjoy on the face of it.

Nikki: That said, if I take, like, a step back and look at the episode, like, a little laugh, a little less hard.

Nikki: Mary Joe's plotline is actually kind of heartbreaking to me, and I think it happens to a lot of women at this age in life.

Nikki: And I say this age meaning where Mary Joe is in life, but it's also sort of where you and I are similarly within a couple of years.

Nikki: But this idea that Mary Jo, who is such a great catch and really would be wonderful, she's strong, she's funny, she's coming into her own.

Nikki: She seems like a totally different person than she was even three seasons ago, much less, I imagine, when she first got married in her early 20s.

Nikki: She seems like she's growing in a really positive way.

Nikki: She's got a great job.

Nikki: She has great friends all around.

Nikki: She's this wonderful person, but she still feels like there's something missing, and she's having trouble filling that hole.

Nikki: That makes me really sad.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: Well, okay, so I'm going to tack on something else that's kind of sad that I thought it was actually really relatable in this one, and it really resonated with me was what kind of set some of this off?

Salina: Was this?

Salina: Did they try to set up with our really quick Charlene check in?

Salina: Yes.

Salina: You still is that Mary Joe and her have been distancing now that Charlene is married and about to have a baby.

Salina: And I think that's sort of how it goes as you hit these different stages of life, whether it's marriage or kids or whatever, those differences, sometimes they make it tougher to spend time together as easily when you're not trapped in home room together or whatever.

Salina: I think kids really more than just marriage, because that's like a whole that's a whole new job, right?

Salina: Maybe ten jobs.

Salina: You'd be the one to weigh in on that.

Nikki: They tell me it gets easier.

Salina: It's fine.

Salina: I think what it really it made me stop and think about how, like, no matter where we are in life, I like to do a gut check and remind myself that we have to keep putting ourselves in other people's shoes no matter what our specific situation is.

Salina: Because when you lose that compassion, I don't think you're able to be as good of a friend.

Nikki: Yeah, I think that's true.

Salina: All right, well, bye, you all.

Salina: I had one more general reaction, but did you have anything else?

Nikki: No, I only have one stray okay.

Nikki: Left.

Salina: So my other general reaction is I'm going to kick it off with a question, which is, would you take suzanne as your dating coach?

Nikki: You know, that is a very interesting question.

Nikki: I think not, because I think Suzanne's that yes, that's what it's 100% what I was going to say, and I think her objective is different than mine.

Nikki: So I think Suzanne her dating record shows that her objective is different than mine, and so when your objective is different, your tactics are going to be different.

Nikki: And so I don't want to do the things she does to land the guys that she lands well.

Salina: We don't even really get her tactics right.

Salina: We get power dating's tactics, because that was mary Joe's stipulation is like, we got to look.

Nikki: That's true.

Salina: I think suzanne was, like, trying to do that, too, so it was not clear to me whether or not those are I think she'd be in an old folks home.

Nikki: I think that's true.

Nikki: Maybe almost.

Nikki: Suzanne was just keeping her honest.

Salina: What's the word?

Nikki: Like, she was supporting her.

Nikki: She was keeping her making sure that she accountable.

Nikki: She's keeping her accountable.

Nikki: She's making her go to the grocery store with eyeliner in broad daylight.

Nikki: She's making she's making her go stand outside the bathroom and all those things.

Nikki: So maybe she was great as an accountability partner.

Salina: I thought that just on the pure basis of her having good luck with men might make it worth giving it a shot.

Nikki: But has she had good luck with men?

Nikki: She's been alone for a long time.

Nikki: Sorry.

Salina: Good luck getting men.

Salina: I did actually change my words here because I had that, and I was like, well, I guess it depends on what?

Salina: Do you want to get one?

Salina: Do you want to keep one?

Nikki: Get one.

Salina: As long as she keeps one, I feel like whatever works for you is good.

Nikki: Yeah.

Salina: I thought I was a little mixed on her guidance at the grocery store, though, because even if they're following the book, she's still giving tips along the way.

Salina: Again, tibs and she gets on a mary Joe for putting the dog food and the kotex in her cart.

Salina: I don't think the dog food will be a turn off at all.

Salina: Just like a lot of dog lovers out there and I automatically see a common interest.

Nikki: Speaking of something stray, I got astray the guy that played the clerk at the bookstore caught my eye.

Nikki: He just looked so something like, this is not the only thing this man does.

Nikki: I did the same thing for the teacher of the mechanical class, for the record, and I really didn't find much that I resonated with on her.

Nikki: But this guy played donatello in teenage mutant ninja turtles, too.

Salina: I also read that because I will tell you that when I saw him, I said, this kid, do they just cart him out every time they needed like an 80s surfer dude?

Nikki: Surfer, kind of, yes.

Salina: And I felt like I've seen him a million times, so I was like looking through his filmography and it's a lot of one offs on TV shows.

Salina: Yeah, that makes sense.

Salina: Did you see that he's been in king of queens?

Salina: Okay.

Salina: We were going two different ways.

Nikki: I watch king of queens every night before I go to bed.

Salina: Yeah.

Nikki: So I think that's probably where he was hitting.

Nikki: In my head, I wouldn't have recognized him as donatello, but when I saw king of queens, I was like, I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to go back.

Nikki: And I have not yet looked at the episode he's in.

Salina: Recognize him as a green turtle?

Nikki: No, I did not.

Nikki: I did not.

Salina: That would be some awesome voice skill.

Nikki: So what are the things that caught your eye?

Salina: Well, so he winds up I think lBT.

Salina: Must have really liked him because he went on to star in three more of her shows.

Nikki: Hearts of fire.

Salina: Hearts of fire.

Salina: Like a lot of hearts of fire, I think.

Salina: And then like 20 something episodes, which was about a lot of the show.

Nikki: I'm just trying to finish that sentence for you.

Nikki: And I wasn't sure what this meant.

Salina: And then women of the house and then also emerald.

Nikki: He was in all of them.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: It's like you got to see him at three very distinct phases of his life.

Nikki: And his name is Adam Carl.

Salina: That's right.

Salina: Two first names.

Salina: There's nothing wrong with it.

Salina: I'm just saying sometimes it's very confusing in email.

Salina: That's all I'm saying.

Salina: It's great.

Salina: So my strays were.

Nikki: Oh, my God.

Salina: I'm such an ahole.

Salina: Charlene is house hunting and mentions something about $150,000 houses today I have to update today.

Salina: That would be 362,000 or in the Atlanta market, what we call a heck of a deal.

Nikki: Say it again.

Nikki: 362,000.

Nikki: Really cheap.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: Straight observations I have from the grocery store.

Salina: So I think we needed to come back to this mary Joe's comment about eyeliner.

Nikki: Yes.

Nikki: I had that in probably either southern or 80s references.

Nikki: I'm not sure which one it is.

Nikki: Is it a southern rule?

Nikki: I've never heard that.

Salina: I think that's, like, me.

Salina: It seems to me to be more of like an old school first of all, I think it's a little silly.

Salina: You can wear eyeliner or not wear eyeliner anytime you want.

Salina: I think there was, like, kind of like and there still are day to night looks.

Salina: So, for instance, I don't know that everyone will do, like, a cat eye and liquid eyeliner in the middle of the day.

Nikki: Now, I will say a surprising number of people do.

Nikki: And I guess now that you've said that I'm registering.

Nikki: It does make me do something.

Nikki: Not judge, but like, that's an interesting.

Salina: Day look, not everyone will do a cat eye in the middle of the day.

Nikki: Right.

Salina: Obviously, more people are doing that probably than ever, because makeup has taken on a life of its own.

Salina: Right.

Salina: So I do think some of that is just those kind of old school rules.

Salina: But, man, it's weird because it hit both of our ears.

Nikki: Well, the point I was trying to make by talking about the cat eye was not to disagree with you, that not everyone does it.

Nikki: It's the point that it does something in my head when I see it, I'm like, that's an interesting choice.

Nikki: So I must ascribe to some level of what Mary Joe said, this distinction, maybe what you're pointing out between night.

Salina: And day looks or just like, wherever it is.

Salina: Right.

Salina: Right to her point.

Salina: It is kind of strange to see someone all dolled up at the grocery.

Nikki: Store fully made up.

Salina: Especially since when I go to the grocery store, I'm like, okay, I got my pants on.

Salina: Good.

Nikki: Sometimes I don't wear pants because I only do the pickup.

Salina: There you go.

Nikki: Don't have to get out.

Salina: Don't tell me what I have to do.

Salina: There you go, guys.

Salina: You all can catch Nikki driving pantsless.

Nikki: You won't catch me.

Salina: Catch her if you can.

Nikki: Exactly.

Salina: It's like Pokemon.

Salina: So, yeah, I thought that just was very interesting.

Salina: And then also, she's wearing the same amount of makeup she always does.

Nikki: Yes.

Salina: So I'm like, you're on TV.

Salina: You're always wearing eyeliner.

Nikki: True.

Salina: And then just the other thing about the zucchini was my other note.

Salina: So I've already told you guys it makes me uncomfortable.

Nikki: And now that I know that, I.

Salina: Will exploit that, I know for sure.

Salina: There's also a zucchini in the fridge right now.

Salina: It's like 18 shades of wrong.

Salina: I have one more stray, which is surround yourself with a field of laughter.

Salina: Why is this always dating guidance for women?

Salina: Why it's so terrible?

Salina: I don't understand.

Nikki: I feel like there's a footnote somewhere that says, unless you laugh like that.

Salina: I want to be very clear that is not my laugh.

Salina: I do hate my laugh, actually.

Salina: I hate it, but that's my manic laugh.

Salina: It's pretty good.

Nikki: It's your Anthony laugh.

Salina: Oh, it is?

Salina: Besides my, like, laugh.

Salina: Nope.

Salina: Besides my laugh, what else did you lack about this episode?

Nikki: I thought Anthony's play by play of his interaction with the Farcasian brothers was really funny.

Nikki: It was just really well delivered.

Nikki: I especially loved when he said, I do not enjoy having to go through some big emotional breakup every time you all return something to them.

Nikki: It's exhausting, and it makes me feel cheap.

Nikki: I just thought that was so funny.

Salina: Yeah, he has really good delivery.

Nikki: Maybe just Anthony in this episode, because my second one was the run in with Anthony at the grocery store.

Salina: Oh, yeah.

Nikki: The person out of context.

Nikki: There was a proper amount of awkwardness there.

Nikki: I don't know, but I really it was perfectly executed.

Salina: So I rewatched all the episodes this morning in preparation, and the one thing that actually caught my ear more than anything is he said, buy the single serving frozen vegetables.

Salina: And I was like, Where are these single serving frozen vegetables?

Salina: Where are those at?

Salina: Because there's always, like, too much of everything.

Salina: That would be wonderful if they had more of that.

Salina: There you go.

Nikki: I didn't have that reaction.

Salina: Well, you're serving for so my thing that I really like the most is Suzanne.

Salina: I thought she was just so funny in this one.

Salina: Her timing, her delivery, just the whole bit.

Salina: How frustrated she is with Mary Joe in that auto mechanics class or whatever.

Salina: She's like you're poisoned.

Salina: She's like, I sit in a convent and I have a man in two minutes.

Salina: She said the comment she makes at the grocery stores, two guys, one cart, fresh pasta, you figure it out.

Salina: She's just, like, so over it.

Salina: And it is spawned.

Salina: I feel like we're seeing her character take on new legs a little bit.

Salina: She has this really interesting confidence that feels a little bit different than it did in previous seasons.

Salina: And I wonder if some of this is being colored for me by this week's extra sugar.

Salina: And some of the things that I learned that were going on in the background.

Salina: But as I learn more about Delta Burke, which I will share.

Salina: Come back Thursday.

Salina: Yeah, we're not I think it's just making me see her in a different light.

Salina: It's making me see her performance in a different light.

Salina: I also really like Mary Joe's statement earrings in this one.

Salina: They are showing up a lot in this season.

Salina: I think I've even seen in the Designing Women Facebook groups, people talk about these earrings, and I really like them.

Salina: So I like it that it ended halfway for Mary Joe.

Salina: So I guess we'll never see this teacher again.

Salina: I don't guess.

Salina: I know, but I liked it.

Salina: It was stupid.

Salina: I still liked it.

Nikki: Yeah.

Salina: Because I think what they're wanting to do with this episode is they're like, they bring up this Newsweek article.

Salina: We'll talk about it in the extra sugar.

Salina: But this thing that was really hard on women at the time, and then they took her through this series of things.

Salina: I mean, the whole thing.

Salina: I think lBT or Pam Norris is trying to say here is like this article was stupid.

Salina: Dating guidance is and you still can the data were wrong and you still can find a special someone.

Salina: Don't let anyone tell you differently.

Salina: And so I liked even though it was absolutely ridiculous and it didn't really make sense, it didn't matter because I think they wanted women to walk away with don't let the world tell you one thing when you can have whatever you want.

Salina: Which, I mean, that's not true either, but you know what I'm saying.

Nikki: Can I clarify one point?

Nikki: So your Dixie, I mean, your Delta Burke extra sugars next week's, right?

Nikki: And this week's is about dating.

Salina: Yes.

Salina: Thank you.

Nikki: Okay.

Nikki: I just didn't want people to get excited.

Nikki: That's coming next week.

Salina: My bad, my bad.

Salina: We will eventually talk about Delta.

Salina: I am talking about dating this time.

Salina: What day is it?

Nikki: She's just trying to figure out how to go into my last like in this episode was the runner about Suzanne dinging cars.

Nikki: She had the sorry note that said, hi there, I dinged your car.

Nikki: The people watching me write this think I'm probably leaving you my name and address signed guess who.

Nikki: And then Julia said, where do you get this ding stuff anyway?

Nikki: I remember you dinged a family of five at a traffic light and the father had to go on disability.

Salina: Scary stuff.

Salina: I mean and hilarious.

Nikki: So it led me to a little bit of a Nicky sidebar.

Nikki: Is that okay?

Salina: Oh, yeah.

Nikki: It'S a sidebar.

Nikki: Mickey sidebar.

Nikki: She's got a keyboard looking for a reward by digging deep in the obscure, taking us on a deep tour.

Nikki: What you got, Mickey?

Nikki: Mickey sidebar.

Nikki: Do you forget how good that is?

Nikki: How high quality production value?

Salina: I love it.

Nikki: So this runner triggered in me this thing and I told Salina, please let me do this.

Nikki: It's going to be so stupid and I don't know if it's going to translate.

Salina: I love this world where I'd be.

Nikki: Like, no, I know Salina is my boss and I say, boss, can I please do this?

Nikki: Because I feel like I've read a lot of funny articles over the years about funny notes left on people's cars and so I just wanted a chance to look at it and see like Suzanne is not the only person that does crap like this.

Salina: Yeah, I don't know.

Salina: I was going to say for the record, I don't know.

Salina: I think it's funny.

Nikki: Some of them are hilarious.

Nikki: Not Suzanne's.

Salina: I don't know yet.

Salina: But tell me.

Nikki: Suzanne's was kind of mean but some of these are really funny.

Nikki: So I had three themes that I chunked them into.

Nikki: Illustration or artistry.

Nikki: Passive aggression.

Salina: Okay.

Nikki: And finally professionalism.

Nikki: So these are like my business card types.

Nikki: So what I'm going to do is I'm going to save some of these pictures and when this episode airs, I'll put some of them on social media so people can see what I'm talking about.

Nikki: And then I'll definitely link to the articles that contain these.

Nikki: I tried to pick ones that translate verbally, but some of them, man, you got to see.

Nikki: You really have to see.

Nikki: So illustration, you know, do you know I'm a can't draw to save my life kind of person?

Nikki: Like, I cannot draw a picture.

Salina: I have some art on my fridge.

Salina: Or did at one point in time.

Salina: Or did your kids draw it?

Salina: Okay, you might be right.

Salina: Go on.

Nikki: I'm not great at drawing.

Nikki: I'm getting like I'm I'm pushing myself because I've told myself this narrative for so long that I'm a terrible artist.

Nikki: I'm pushing myself with the kids.

Nikki: Some things surprised me, but really I'm not the type of person that would draw things.

Nikki: But the first one that made me really laugh was a drawing of a well known character on The Simpsons.

Nikki: He's an old man named Jasper.

Nikki: And in this picture and at school, he threatens kids with a paddle in for doing bad things.

Nikki: And he has this big paddle that he sort of wax on his hand.

Nikki: Well, in the car note world, this translated to an illustration of Jasper holding his paddle with a note that says, park it in other people's spots that's the paddle in and the picture is drawn.

Nikki: So wonderfully.

Nikki: I am so impressed.

Salina: How do they even have the time?

Nikki: I think people make time for the things that matter most.

Salina: Fair enough.

Salina: It really mattered to them.

Nikki: The next one that made me laugh was Bill Lumberg, who is the boss from Office Space.

Nikki: So he's the one that walks around to his employees desks and he stops and he goes, yeah, I'm going to need you to go ahead and come in this weekend.

Nikki: So the note that I found is a hand drawn picture of Bill with a note that says, yeah, I'm going to need you to park in your own spots.

Nikki: And then the last one I really loved in this category of art was a diagram.

Nikki: I love a good diagram.

Nikki: I just really enjoy, like this labels.

Nikki: This goes here, this goes here.

Nikki: So this one was written on lined yellow paper, which I feel like just makes it even more specific that they have it.

Nikki: That it's like diagram.

Nikki: Anyway, it very clearly depicts the parking offender blocking, who I assume is the note taker's driveway.

Nikki: So there are like, cars, and it's like the car parked wrong and it says, like, this is not where you park a car.

Nikki: This is where you're parked.

Nikki: It didn't leave any questions.

Salina: Passive aggressive too.

Nikki: There's a lot of overlap.

Nikki: There's a lot of overlap.

Nikki: I actually almost changed the category from passive aggression, but it just that's my next category.

Nikki: Let's go there next.

Nikki: So this is, as you know, probably my favorite form of aggression.

Salina: I just thought these were going to be I'm sorry notes.

Nikki: Oh, absolutely not.

Salina: Okay.

Nikki: A lot of these are mad at people notes, but I think there is at least one sorry note.

Salina: So mad at you for making me hit your card.

Nikki: This is all your fault.

Nikki: So in this one, there are a lot of thank yous that I'm starting to think aren't real.

Nikki: Thank you.

Salina: Oh, God.

Salina: Okay.

Nikki: So, for instance, thanks for always parking across the path.

Nikki: It gives me the chance to feel like a movie star and slide across your hood now and then.

Nikki: Try it.

Nikki: It's awesome.

Salina: Oh, my God.

Nikki: The second one.

Nikki: Dear driver, thank you so much for taking the time to move our trash cans to let you park.

Nikki: We really appreciate it because it's not like we have a big blue truck to park in front of our house or anything.

Nikki: Once again, thank you for using your personal time to make our life harder.

Nikki: Hate you.

Nikki: And that's the one that I'm just like that was like a novel I just read to you.

Nikki: So someone stood, I guess, maybe inside their house, but just hate you and then put it on someone's car.

Salina: I think Love You would have been more impactful.

Nikki: Do you think so?

Salina: Yeah, if some editing is allowed.

Nikki: Oh, well, don't tell me.

Nikki: Tell this person.

Nikki: I don't want to cross their path.

Nikki: The last one is an outline of a turtle.

Nikki: It looks like it's a page from a coloring book.

Nikki: And the note says, many three year olds have trouble staying within the lines.

Nikki: Maybe if you practice coloring this turtle, it will help with your parking.

Salina: The only thing that would have been better if it had been like a t***.

Salina: I was going to say something more graphic, but I kept it together, and.

Nikki: My final category is professionalism.

Nikki: So these are the people who are sort of just overachievers, like, in every aspect of their life.

Salina: You're about to read me one of.

Nikki: Your thank you notes.

Nikki: These are all mine.

Salina: Every time I hit someone, I write them the best notes.

Nikki: This one is a really neatly designed business card that simply says, people like you should take the bus.

Nikki: Please learn how to park.

Nikki: It's clean.

Nikki: It's simple.

Nikki: It looks nice, sharp.

Salina: It's sharp.

Nikki: And then the last one is printed out and it says, congratulations, you won the inconsiderate Parker's Prize by occupying two parking spaces with one very small car and doing this for more than a month, far longer than anyone else has achieved.

Salina: Yes.

Salina: Good for this person, because let me tell you, I think every person who parks like an ahole, at the very least, if not, like, maybe a baseball bat to their tail light deserves, like, a card that's like, hey, I know that you only see you in this world, but you're actually in two spots, you big b*******.

Nikki: It's crazy to me, it really is.

Nikki: That people will climb out of their car, look at their parking and carry on with their day.

Salina: It makes me furious.

Nikki: I understand if you're busy.

Nikki: I understand if you're in a hurry.

Salina: But it never is because they're always in the back of the parking lot.

Salina: So clearly they had the time to park in two spots and then walk all the way because they don't want anyone to ding your car.

Salina: Their car.

Salina: And you know what that makes me want to do?

Salina: Ding ding your car.

Nikki: It's true.

Salina: It's been a public service enough, I will say.

Nikki: So I didn't pull out any examples of this, but I do have a note to myself here that there were a lot of notes.

Nikki: Like Suzanne's, some version of like, people are looking.

Nikki: Here's a note that you thought my number on.

Nikki: It was on it.

Nikki: Like law jokes on you.

Nikki: There were several of those.

Nikki: I just don't think those are very funny.

Nikki: I thought these other ones were a lot funnier.

Salina: I just assume they walk away and then they fall in.

Nikki: A manhole, I hope so.

Salina: One can dream.

Nikki: I really do hope that karma catches up with them somewhere.

Nikki: Like they lose some money somewhere or something, because that's really unkind.

Nikki: Speaking of things we don't like, look at that.

Nikki: What didn't you like?

Salina: This is nitpicky.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: My favorite.

Salina: Okay.

Salina: I'm sorry.

Salina: Because I know I'm about to take out one of your likes.

Salina: Here's the thing that I wanted to do.

Salina: I wanted two or three more minutes with Mary.

Salina: Joe and Suzanne paired up.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: And so I thought through some things that I would have removed in order to have more time with them.

Nikki: Let's see.

Salina: I would have removed the cold open with Anthony.

Salina: I'm sorry.

Salina: And I would have removed the scene with Julia talking to the kid at the bookstore because I actually didn't think that was very funny.

Salina: She just seemed mean.

Nikki: She just continues to seem like they're playing into the snottiness and the obnoxious.

Nikki: Like Suzanne on the episode we just watched about the excuse me when they were traveling.

Nikki: Similar to that.

Nikki: They're playing into the ugliest part of Julia's personality, too.

Nikki: Like this poor innocent kid who's just not altogether there.

Salina: He's making $4 an hour.

Salina: Just let it go.

Nikki: It's okay.

Salina: Also, for the record, this is going to be my stray on my don't like is that I actually really like the mix in a bookstore.

Salina: I like to go pick up a pretty journal that I can write in or like, cool, bookmark some cardstock.

Salina: I'm good with that mix.

Nikki: So just take a seat, Julia.

Salina: Take a seat and read your snobby book.

Salina: We'll get there.

Salina: Also, love you, Julia, but just calm down.

Nikki: Yeah.

Salina: You want to rate this one?

Salina: You want me to ask you what you don't like?

Salina: Did you talk about what you don't like?

Salina: Where are we?

Nikki: Who am I?

Nikki: I only have one, and I was happy to just skip past it.

Nikki: It was just Mary Joe's interactions with the men, because it just made me cringe so much with second hand embarrassment.

Nikki: I struggle with second hand embarrassment watching TV shows.

Nikki: I go under the blanket.

Nikki: It really makes me uncomfortable.

Salina: I'll tell you what my worst one is ever.

Salina: It's in Dirty Dancing.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: Where it's like, maybe the first time she meets some of the cool kids who dance at night, the kids that work there.

Salina: And she's walking with the melon guy.

Nikki: Yes.

Salina: I'm just holding some watermelon, and I immediately turn pink.

Salina: I don't know what it is.

Salina: How do they write that?

Salina: Because I think that's intentional, right?

Salina: That shows how awkward she is and how innocent she is.

Salina: And every time since I've been, like, three years old, I watch that and I'm like, oh, I'm so embarrassed for her.

Nikki: It's incredible.

Nikki: So when I watch reality TV shows, like, especially Love Is Blind sort of dating shows, that's real life, as close to real life as possible, those are real interactions.

Nikki: And so it makes sense to me that there will be some times where you get a little second hand embarrassment where you're just like, oh, how awkward.

Nikki: It's amazing to me when writers can translate that in a script and, like, a prepared script, and then an actor can play that out in a way where you feel like you are watching something real, and it is so freaking uncomfortable.

Nikki: Teenage movies do it to me all the time.

Nikki: Like, interactions between guys and gals and potential partners so much.

Nikki: Yeah, that was my don't.

Nikki: Like, I mean, she held a zucchini in front of that man.

Salina: C was a lot.

Nikki: I get it.

Salina: I do have been juggling eggplants.

Nikki: What I'm saying, maybe that was the goal.

Nikki: Juggling eggplant.

Salina: So you want to rate this?

Nikki: I do.

Salina: It's not a false alarm this time.

Nikki: For real?

Nikki: For real.

Salina: Yes.

Nikki: Well, my rating scale is something you would have cut in your ideal episode.

Nikki: It was special rug discounts, and I'm giving it a four out of five.

Salina: Okay.

Nikki: So I'm starting to think I had maybe a string of unearned fives the last couple of episodes because I felt like if I didn't have a lot of negative things to say about them, like, I almost needed to counterbalance the rating with negative things.

Nikki: So that's how I was sort of justifying my scores.

Nikki: But I think I need to raise my bar a little bit because those weren't all like, knock it out of the Parkers.

Nikki: They were just watchable, like, multiple times.

Nikki: That a five does not make.

Nikki: So this episode, I'm going to hold the line.

Nikki: I'm setting my boundary, and I'm saying four.

Nikki: Solid episode.

Nikki: I enjoyed watching it.

Nikki: It made me laugh.

Nikki: There were some funny lines, but it wasn't like Emmy Award winning or anything.

Nikki: So a four it is.

Salina: Okay.

Salina: All right.

Nikki: They can't see the hand gestures there.

Salina: Is some hand gestures going along.

Salina: She's just over there just flicking me off.

Nikki: What's yours?

Salina: I did give it a 4.5 because I only have one thing, and it was super nitpicky.

Salina: So 4.5 out of five.

Salina: Overly suggestive zucchinis, but not eggplants.

Salina: I think that it's the office that would do these fun pair ups.

Salina: Like, they would be in the writers room, and they would be like, okay, so we haven't seen Jim and Kevin together in a while, so let's throw them into an episode and let's see what happens.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: And I felt like that's what was happening here, and I like that because I think it helps keep it fresh, because we are spending a lot of time with the same people over and over again in an office space.

Salina: So I also happen to think that Annie Potts and Delta Burke have good chemistry together.

Nikki: Keep it fresh.

Salina: Keep it fresh.

Nikki: And is that from neighbors?

Nikki: What's up?

Nikki: Just keeping it fresh.

Salina: Oh, maybe.

Salina: Is that when they're trying to be cool?

Nikki: Yes.

Salina: With, like, the 22 year old keeping it fresh.

Salina: Keeping it 100.

Salina: I don't ever use popular phrases because I feel like I'm always 18 steps behind, so I'm like, cool.

Salina: I'll just stay with cool.

Salina: Self chuckle.

Salina: I love a good self chuckle.

Salina: 80s things or other dated references?

Nikki: I have three.

Nikki: I have the quote, the good old days when pregnant women were allowed to lay around like third base.

Nikki: I think Suzanne says that that just feels like something that we used to say.

Salina: That's funny.

Salina: I wouldn't say no under Southern things.

Salina: Yeah, I don't know anything where it's like that.

Salina: That's like, super clear metaphor.

Salina: Yes.

Nikki: Super illustrative or something.

Nikki: Yeah.

Nikki: I also had Jane Fonda.

Nikki: They mentioned her at some point.

Nikki: And then the $150,000 house, because that just wouldn't happen today.

Salina: Yes.

Salina: All good things.

Salina: I had Donahue, which we've gotten before.

Salina: You mentioned Adam, Mr.

Salina: Carl.

Salina: Mr.

Salina: Adam Carl.

Nikki: Double first name.

Salina: And then, oh, Julia physically having to cut out the New York Times article, and she has, like, waiting for Mary Joe.

Salina: That's like the correction of the dating story.

Salina: And it's like, perfectly cut.

Salina: And I'm like, oh, that's something you don't really see anymore.

Salina: Southern things.

Nikki: This is where I put the eyeliner in broad daylight.

Nikki: It feels like a Southern world to me.

Nikki: Maybe it's just an 80s thing.

Salina: Traditional.

Nikki: Exactly.

Salina: I think that's fair.

Nikki: And the Piggly Wiggly, which is where they were shopping.

Salina: Yes.

Salina: References that we need to talk about.

Nikki: I don't have any, but I'm guessing you have a couple.

Salina: It's so funny because we caught all the same things and put them in different categories.

Salina: So I caught Jane Fonda as well, but I put her here because I don't know that people necessarily know the background on Suzanne's comment, which was like, I mean, now Jane Fonda is going after them, too.

Salina: I tell you, I like that woman a lot better when she was just a communist.

Salina: Just real quickly, jane Fonda was a really big activist.

Salina: She still is.

Salina: She just got arrested in 2019 for awesome.

Salina: I kind of think so.

Salina: I think it's documented if you go back, that I have talked several times about how much I love to be.

Nikki: Honest, that's why I didn't put it here.

Nikki: I need a better method for remembering some of these little things we've talked about because there's a lot that I feel I hear Jane Fonda, I'm like, I think we've talked about her before, but I can't remember bits and shades of it.

Nikki: And then there have been other times where I've started talking about a thing and you're like, yeah, no, we've definitely talked about that before.

Nikki: And my memory I don't want to.

Salina: Give you whatever that is.

Nikki: Well, my memory is not the best system for remembering these things.

Nikki: So I didn't want to talk about something if we'd already talked about it before.

Salina: I often have to go back and check because I know we've talked about her.

Salina: I've talked about her documentary and how much I enjoyed it.

Nikki: Yes, that's right.

Salina: I think we touched on this part.

Salina: Yes.

Salina: Okay.

Salina: Because there are a lot of people who do have issues with her, and it's over what Suzanne's referencing.

Salina: So in 72, she went to North Vietnam and appeared on several radio programs.

Salina: She wasn't speaking out against individuals in the military.

Salina: She was speaking out against the US's military policy.

Salina: And she was begging pilots to stop bombing non military targets.

Salina: And then there was a picture taken of her on an anti aircraft gun in Hanoi making it look like she would shoot down American aircraft.

Salina: And there that's where she received the nickname.

Salina: I feel like I'm pronouncing this wrong.

Salina: Hanoi Jane.

Salina: I feel like I'm missing like, a syllable.

Nikki: You don't know that you're ever going to say it properly.

Salina: Not as a Southerner, no.

Nikki: I think that was close, though.

Nikki: People know what you're talking about.

Nikki: I think people know.

Salina: But she said repeatedly that she only meant to protest the government and not the soldiers.

Salina: She still apologizes to this day.

Salina: I think she really actually has tried several times to sit down with different veterans.

Salina: They'll show up to events and protest her as they're right.

Salina: That's the right that we carry in this country.

Salina: But anyway, so that was the background on that.

Nikki: Can I say about Jane Fonda?

Nikki: Yeah, sort of mildly related.

Nikki: I've been doing some research because we've got segment coming up about the Queen Dolly Parton, and I was reading about nine to five, and she was in that with Jaden Fonda.

Nikki: And I just have to say in general, like, thank goodness that these females in pop culture, in society who become targets for these one time things they do and get sort of like pigeonholed for that.

Nikki: Thank goodness they keep kind of coming back and coming back and trying again and trying again because Jane Fonda is still active.

Nikki: She's still on TV.

Nikki: Frankie and Grace.

Nikki: Or Grace and Frankie.

Nikki: I always Do It Wrong is a hilarious show.

Nikki: It's so funny and I feel like it still has broad appeal.

Nikki: So thankfully she just kept trying again and again and again to tell people like, you saw this one tiny thing and you don't understand, but I appreciate that.

Nikki: I appreciate why you would be frustrated and blah, blah, blah.

Nikki: But I'm not going to just go away into a hole and I'm really grateful for that because I think we end up with these living legends because they keep trying and it advances things further for other women.

Salina: Isn't it interesting too, that someone like Dolly Parton and Jane Fonda, I don't think they're that far apart on their belief systems, but they get categorized very differently.

Salina: I think that's fascinating.

Nikki: I think some of we'll talk about that.

Nikki: I think when when we get to the Dolly segment because she is famously apolitical and people ascribe political beliefs to her that she herself has never owned.

Salina: That's fair.

Salina: I think she's more actionable with less words.

Nikki: Yes, I think that's right.

Salina: Puts her in a good position.

Nikki: She very specifically said a few times, like, she and Jane do not talk politics with one another.

Nikki: They intentionally do not share politics.

Nikki: She believes what she believes.

Nikki: I believe what I believe.

Nikki: It does not need to enter the conversation.

Nikki: So again, we'll talk about it.

Nikki: I think it's interesting, but I think in the fact that they support one another, there's some consistency there.

Nikki: There's some camaraderie or whatever, or if.

Salina: That truly is the case that she is really that apolitical and not just a genius for not saying her thoughts out loud.

Salina: What I will say is that is something I think we can all learn from, is like, you don't have to be on the same page and there are still some issues that we can tackle together.

Salina: Tessa.

Salina: The juba voo.

Salina: Thank you.

Salina: Help me.

Salina: Frenchie.

Salina: So this is a book by Thomas Hardy, first published in 1892.

Salina: Look, I'm going to just say two things, okay?

Salina: Because I'm not going to go into the whole thing.

Salina: I read the summary and I was like, this is the most depressing thing I've ever read.

Salina: I like, read the Cliff Notes.

Salina: I was like, oh, yeah, I can't do all this.

Salina: But I was like, this is just like really terrible.

Salina: And it feels like, I don't know, it's like a man writing something about it's.

Salina: Just like she's had like a horrible life and everything just goes down the toilet.

Nikki: But isn't Julia so much better than us for having read it?

Salina: That's why I bring it up.

Salina: And then the other thing I was going to say is it's been made into a lot of different movies and miniseries and stuff, even as recently as 2008.

Salina: And I only say that because I had Eddie Redmond in it.

Salina: Or as I like to think of, Newt Scamander.

Salina: That's the one.

Salina: Yes, that's it.

Nikki: Are we done this week?

Nikki: Next episode season Four episode eleven.

Nikki: They shoot fat women, don't they?

Nikki: We'd love everyone to follow along with us and engage Instagram and Facebook at sweet TnTV TikTok www no, that's our website.

Nikki: Our website TikTok at sweettvpod.

Nikki: Our email is

Nikki: And then of course, you can always support the show by rating and reviewing us wherever you listen.

Nikki: We have some additional ways to support the show from our Support US page.

Nikki: We haven't talked about this, I don't think, on here.

Nikki: But I have been trying to add things to our YouTube channel, which I think is Sweet TV Pod, I believe.

Nikki: I don't have it pulled up right in front of me, but just search Sweet TV podcast.

Nikki: I am trying to add the episodes there because I know some people like to have it running sort of in the background.

Nikki: Maybe YouTube's their preferred channel.

Nikki: It's not perfect yet.

Nikki: All the episodes aren't there.

Nikki: We're working on it though.

Nikki: So if that's a way people like to listen to the show, it's happening somehow.

Salina: We're trying.

Nikki: We're trying really hard.

Nikki: There are four episodes now, I think maybe five.

Nikki: So it's happening.

Salina: Yeah.

Nikki: So, anyway, Thursday, extra sugar.

Nikki: Let's clarify what it's about this week.

Salina: Delta Burke.

Salina: I'm sorry?

Salina: It's a guide to dating guides.

Salina: She that's the name of it.

Salina: A guide to dating.

Salina: A guide to dating guides.

Salina: She's not the best title, I keep hearing.

Nikki: A Guide to Dating Guides.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: I'm going to be giving you all the dating advice.

Salina: You know me.

Salina: You know what that means.

Salina: Nikki what does it mean?

Salina: Salina it means we'll see you around the bend.

Salina: Bye.


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