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Designing Women S4 E20 - Four Gallons of Moonshine and a Tornado

Updated: Jun 9, 2023

Bad weather and uninvited guests have descended on Sugarbakers. What are we to do?? Well, what any good Southerner would: crank the tunes, pour the drinks, and fall in love. Much like the approaching tornado, it’s a wild one, y’all.


Come back Thursday for an “Extra Sugar” on prohibition inspired by the evening’s signature cocktail: moonshine.


Come on y’all, let’s get into it!

 

Transcript

Salina: Hey, Nikki.

Nikki: Hey, Salina.

Salina: And hello, everyone.

Salina: Welcome to sweet TNTV.

Nikki: Hey, y'all.

Salina: Well, you know, occurred to me that I have told you a little bit about my trip to New Orleans recently, but we haven't really had the chance to dig in.

Nikki: I've been strategically not asking too many questions.

Nikki: I wanted to give you space to naturally bring it up if you were so inclined.

Salina: I'm very inclined, and especially honestly, it meant a lot to me.

Salina: Oh, by the way, guys, I went.

Nikki: To New Orleans for her birthday.

Salina: Yeah, for my birthday.

Salina: So Casey surprised me.

Salina: I wonder I don't know if I ever said this here.

Salina: Yeah, we went on that cruise.

Salina: What I don't know if I said is, like, I got that for his birthday.

Salina: Like the trip on the cruise.

Nikki: I know, you told me that.

Nikki: I don't remember.

Salina: Anyways, I feel like maybe I accidentally upped the ante.

Salina: Even though his was like, a big milestone birthday.

Salina: Mine is just like a fall flat kind of birthday.

Nikki: It's like 24.

Salina: 25.

Salina: Next year, I can finally rent that 25.

Salina: I can finally say I did it, but I'm 38 and I'm going to claim that because it's like, whatever can't change it.

Nikki: So you might as well own it.

Salina: Might as well.

Salina: I'm always in the camp of go 70 because maybe somebody will be like.

Nikki: So good for 70.

Salina: Of course, the one time that they're like, yeah, I see that.

Salina: Thank you.

Salina: So I think I accidentally upped the annie.

Salina: Or maybe he was just feeling generous, I don't know.

Salina: But he surprised me with a trip to New Orleans.

Salina: And so we went for Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, four nights and three full days, which is pretty good for, like, a quick getaway, especially because you flew down.

Nikki: There, so you got down quicker than if you had driven.

Salina: I think there's maybe some argument to that once you fast in the airport, but I prefer it because no one has to be exhausted in driving back, which I think is really the biggest problem.

Salina: Also, I hate being trapped in a car for multiple hours, so not really my idea of, like, happy birthday.

Salina: Now sit here for 7 hours.

Salina: Okay.

Salina: Eight if there's traffic, especially somebody like me, because I need to be moving all the time.

Salina: So we went just a couple of weeks.

Salina: Not even a couple of weeks ago.

Salina: We went last week.

Salina: And it was just fantastic.

Salina: And I really wanted to share it with you, Nikki, because I think most of my knowledge about New Orleans really comes either from things that you've told me, from you went beignets and never knew about them before, but it either came from when you went and had told me things about it or segments that we've done right here on the podcast where I learn more.

Salina: And so I think I shared this with you before we started today, but I kind of can't stop thinking about it.

Salina: I was expecting to like it.

Salina: I don't know that I was expecting to love it.

Salina: I try to keep my expectations because they get too high and then you can never meet them.

Nikki: Right.

Salina: But I have a couple of different things that I thought I would share with you that were my favorites, and it's like food that's obvious shopping, and then like a combination of history, culture, architecture.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: So I thought I would share a couple of specifics from each one.

Salina: The food.

Salina: I will tell you that the very biggest surprise for me is that, okay, if you were to send me anywhere else, like New York City, for instance, I'm not going to eat in the most popular areas of New York City.

Salina: I'm going to be afraid to like Times Square.

Salina: I'm not going to go there and be like, this olive garden is going to be amazing.

Salina: So going on Bourbon Street and having some of my best mills flattened me.

Salina: I couldn't believe it because as we were going, I was like, is this a mistake?

Salina: Is this a mistake?

Salina: But it was amazing.

Salina: In fact, even the worst meal we had was still fine.

Salina: And I think they suffered from something.

Salina: Obviously, I'm not going to share any specific places rude, but they suffered from something that I want to call the instagram problem, where we're too worried about making it pretty, the optics.

Salina: And then we forget about execution.

Nikki: Oh, that sucks.

Salina: But, like, because all the menu items sounded good, they just didn't taste as good as they sounded.

Nikki: So what is the name of the restaurant rhyme with that's a really good question.

Salina: I won't tell you.

Salina: Fine.

Salina: Maybe I'll tell you off my okay, fine.

Salina: Okay.

Salina: I, of course, went to Cafe Dumont, so obviously I highly recommend it.

Salina: How can you not?

Salina: The beignets are delicious.

Salina: Cafe ole.

Salina: I will say that you have talked about cafe ole for years, and here I don't know.

Salina: I get it.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: There it's good, right?

Salina: I get it.

Salina: There is something different.

Nikki: It's the Chickery root coffee mixed with the steamed milk all intermingling for deliciousness.

Salina: I can't help but wonder, too, if maybe there is something about the energy there and you're excited and you're on a trip and maybe that's in the mix.

Salina: But I also am, like, maybe other places aren't doing it right.

Nikki: I genuinely think it has something to do with the fact that it's the French roast coffee and something about the Cafe Dumont.

Nikki: They have their own coffee blend, and so some of that helps, but it's a different flavor altogether.

Salina: The only thing I will say for people is, like, get your mind right because it's really busy.

Salina: If you think you're going to have that cafe yeah.

Salina: If you think you're going to have that scene from, like, a Parisian cafe and it's just you and your thoughts and your artistry, well, you've lost your mind?

Salina: It is.

Nikki: It's a tourist.

Nikki: I don't want to use the word trap.

Salina: Two them now.

Salina: Did you know?

Salina: Oh, I didn't know that they opened a second location.

Salina: Oh, good.

Salina: Did you go to the first one?

Salina: Okay.

Salina: I only went to the original.

Nikki: Good.

Nikki: Yeah.

Nikki: Good.

Nikki: I feel like that's the one to go to.

Salina: I think that's right.

Nikki: It's not a tourist trap, but it is definitely a tourist destination.

Nikki: And the volume of foot traffic underscores.

Salina: That, it also looks like what I imagine Paul Escobar's living room look like, just covered in white powdered sugar.

Salina: You can see it from, like, a block away.

Salina: Whoa.

Salina: But I kind of love that too.

Salina: I think there's something that's, like, licking.

Nikki: It up off the sidewalk.

Salina: It's, like, fun.

Salina: Well, just like one would do it paul Escobar's living room.

Salina: But, yeah, there's just something about it that it makes it feel unique and fun.

Salina: I mean, hey, if there's powdered sugar everywhere, you have a good time.

Salina: I don't know that's.

Nikki: Just wonder how often they pressure wash that place.

Salina: Well, I saw them pressure washing it while I was there.

Salina: For real?

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: Good.

Salina: I imagine that they I mean, clearly they do it every night, but I think they find a way to do it real quickly, like, in between trainings or something, maybe, which is kind of funny.

Salina: It's like, just get that blood off the sidewalk.

Salina: Get a seat.

Salina: But, yeah, it was a good experience.

Salina: Oh, also, we had a frozen cafe olay there.

Nikki: Oh, how was it?

Salina: Good.

Salina: Milkshake?

Salina: Yeah, kind of.

Salina: It was so good.

Salina: A couple other recommendations that I wanted to share for anyone who might find themselves there is Felix's.

Salina: That was one of the places on Bourbon Street.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: They're known for their char grilled oysters.

Salina: Oh, my goodness.

Salina: And I want to be clear, at one point in time, I was a big oyster person.

Salina: That changed for me at some point.

Salina: I don't think I've ever had them char grill before.

Salina: That's a whole other level.

Salina: They also put it with, like, a piece of probably French bread.

Salina: I couldn't tell because it was covered in so much butter.

Salina: And it looks like they char grilled it too.

Salina: I mean, I didn't need to chew.

Salina: It just melted.

Nikki: It just melted.

Nikki: I'm trying to look it up real quick while you're talking.

Salina: Absolutely amazing.

Nikki: I want to see what it looks like.

Nikki: This doesn't seem familiar to me.

Salina: Yeah, I mean, it's right there on Bourbon Street.

Salina: So my friend got some recommendations from someone she works with who's spent, like, a lot of time there too, and there was a note in his notes that he sent to her or text that said in, the guy knows what he's talking about.

Nikki: Oh, dang.

Salina: And this was his place that he suggested specifically for oysters.

Salina: So you all keep that in mind if you're going.

Nikki: Oh, that may be why I've never come across that.

Nikki: I'm not a huge oyster gal.

Salina: If you think eggs are divisive napoleon house, great mufalata.

Salina: Have you been there before, Nikki?

Nikki: No, I've not been there.

Nikki: The name is familiar, though, so I.

Salina: Think the history behind it is something like they built that restaurant specifically for Napoleon or something, but Napoleon never made it.

Salina: All to say that it's a pretty old place, but they still call it that, I was going to say.

Nikki: And they were really mad about the name.

Nikki: Dang it.

Nikki: Napoleon.

Salina: Anybody place.

Salina: Super cute little courtyard situation.

Salina: All of the servers are dressed with, like, the little bow ties, so it kind of feels like you step back in time a little bit.

Nikki: Oh, that's cool.

Salina: And they also have some sort of specialty chocolate cake that's, like, specific to New Orleans that was really delicious.

Salina: And even stuff like if you're going there for New Orleans cuisine, I randomly got, like, a chicken salad croissant.

Salina: Delicious.

Salina: So just really great place, great coffee.

Nikki: The chocolate dobert's cake.

Salina: That's it.

Nikki: It's a New Orleans classic multilayered cake made in our Ralph Brennan bakery.

Nikki: Thank you.

Salina: See, look at you.

Nikki: That Brennan name again.

Salina: It sure is.

Salina: They're quite big there, I hear.

Salina: Bayona, I will qualify this one as fine dining, let's just say was Napoleon.

Nikki: House not fine dining.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: More of like I mean, not it was just like cafe feeling.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: Cafe, lunch spot.

Salina: They probably do dinner as well.

Salina: I did kind of think it might have been fine dining until we got there.

Nikki: Until you got there, yeah.

Salina: But also just everything inside it is, like, super cute.

Salina: Like, I did, like, a quick tour around almost every restaurant just because I wanted to try and soak it all in.

Salina: And a lot of times you just get to see the table where you're seated or whatever, so, I mean, the whole thing is just super cute.

Salina: So, Bayona, again, this one I would qualify as fine dining.

Salina: Let's just say that everyone had clean plates at the end.

Nikki: Oh, that's good.

Salina: So my friend said it was, bar none, the best scallop dish that she had ever had.

Salina: I had some rockin profitterals that were filled with, like, a chocolate gelato.

Salina: And I will tell you that I'm not probably the person who's going to go in and be like, I'll take the chocolate gelato.

Salina: But it was absolutely amazing.

Salina: And then perhaps the best coffee I've ever had at an unexpected location that I had no idea what it was called.

Salina: French truck coffee.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: This is mostly in New Orleans, but if you find yourself in Memphis, apparently they have a location there as well.

Salina: I would describe it as smooth, flavorful and not an ounce of bitterness.

Salina: Now I think I just have whatever their house blend is when I went in there.

Salina: And I did get cafe ole, both of the times that I went.

Salina: They also are the provider of the coffee at Commander's Palace.

Nikki: Oh, okay.

Salina: So chances are, Nikki, unless that was a recent change, you've had it.

Salina: And it's their blend just for Commander's Palace.

Nikki: Okay.

Nikki: It's called French.

Nikki: What?

Nikki: Truck.

Salina: French truck.

Salina: And their logo is so cute.

Salina: I'm like, please come to Atlanta.

Salina: Please come to Atlanta.

Salina: It's definitely worth plugging.

Salina: Also, their unique bar scene off Bourbon Street, that wasn't for me.

Salina: It's too wild for me.

Salina: But they had actually this was on Bourbon Street, but we went at lunch, so I think we were safe.

Salina: It's a cute little jazz bar called Fritzels.

Salina: And I don't know, they had, like, a little three piece set of guys just like that, and it wasn't too jazzy.

Salina: What's it like the scat?

Salina: Kind of yeah, but it was just the music was good.

Salina: The acoustics were good.

Salina: The drinks were good.

Salina: This was nice.

Salina: The bartender, I got a mocktail there, and he refilled my mocktail for free.

Nikki: Oh, that is nice.

Salina: That doesn't happen.

Nikki: New Orleans.

Nikki: It does.

Salina: I know.

Salina: Let me tell you.

Salina: He's probably like, I feel bad for her.

Salina: Get this woman, too.

Salina: New Orleans is for cocktails.

Salina: So he refills.

Salina: Like, I didn't even understand what happened.

Salina: I reached out to Casey.

Salina: I was like, did you order me another one?

Salina: He said, no.

Nikki: I was like, oh, no.

Salina: Strange.

Salina: This seems odd, but I like it.

Salina: So another one that I want to mention is the Carousel Bar.

Salina: This is in Hotel Montel.

Salina: Montel.

Salina: M-O-N-T-E-L-E-O-N-E.

Salina: Definitely french.

Salina: Did you go to that by any chance?

Nikki: No, we were on Bourbon Street quite a bit.

Salina: Literally, you party animal.

Salina: You're, like, out there with, like, an anaconda around you or a python.

Salina: There definitely was a few.

Nikki: No, make it better or worse.

Nikki: I was with my parents the last time I was in New Orleans on Bourbon Street.

Nikki: They're big Bourbon Street people.

Nikki: They like to be amongst the people with the party.

Nikki: Not big drinkers, but they like to be in the in the mix.

Salina: Fascinating people watching.

Salina: There's no getting around that.

Nikki: I mean, we we actually spent quite a bit of time on the balconies just watching people walk up and down Bourbon Street.

Salina: Well, and that's also a safe distance.

Nikki: Yes.

Salina: Like, where you're not feeling like you're caught in it.

Nikki: Right.

Salina: So this Carousel Bar, though, it's literally like a real carousel that a bar is in the middle of, and you get up there on the stool and it actually spins.

Salina: Yeah, I mean, it's very slow.

Nikki: Your trip to New Orleans was more, I feel like, curated than mine was.

Nikki: I've been twice in the last few years, and every time I go, it's like for a family event.

Nikki: So we're just, like, real quick in and out of the city.

Nikki: So I feel like you had the real tour of New Orleans, I guess.

Salina: Because this is the least prepared I've ever been for a trip, at least in recent years.

Salina: And so I think maybe a week before, I was like, I better start looking into this, because since it was a surprise, I didn't feel like, as engaged, I didn't book the plane tickets.

Salina: So I kept being like, at some point, I really got to figure something out.

Salina: And then it really did become curative.

Salina: Once this friend sent that list of places, I think that gave us a lot more, a lot of structure, like, oh, okay, well, we want to do this.

Salina: There's also a cool bar.

Salina: It's called bar, Maryloo.

Salina: Get reservations if you go.

Salina: The reason I know is because we weren't really able to get in, but I did go in there for just, like, a little bit and get the peak.

Salina: Oh, peak.

Salina: Actually, I did use the bathroom there.

Nikki: Yeah, there you go.

Salina: I almost was like, I'm going to take this toilet paper because I can't stay here.

Salina: I didn't know I'm an adult, but it used to be a library.

Nikki: Oh, cool.

Salina: So there's still, like, bookshelves and stuff in it, but it's, like, really moody and lots of black and red, and it just has kind of like the speakeasy fill to it.

Salina: So that one was pretty cool.

Salina: And I just want to say, as far as the shopping goes, I've done some traveling, and a lot of places that you go that's this much of a tourist destination, it's a lot of T shirt shops.

Nikki: So I'm surprised, and I don't mean to cut off your train of thought, I'm surprised at some of the pieces you've shown me that you got there, because I'm like, where did you find this stuff?

Nikki: What shops were you going into?

Salina: You know, where I was close to Cafe Dumont.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: They have that open air market situation in the middle, so we just kind of hit up around that area.

Salina: And I was just so impressed because the items felt unique.

Salina: It didn't feel like that price gouge.

Salina: I mean, you're in a tourist destination, so it is what it is.

Salina: And again, it didn't feel like just one T shirt shop after the next, and it also felt like themed to New Orleans.

Salina: And so I wonder if maybe the local, whoever runs New Orleans, they must really do a lot of work to keep that out, because I think it's really easy for that.

Salina: I even see that in Helen now.

Salina: And that's a much smaller tourist destination.

Salina: But you go up there and you will get that and not as much of the little curated shops as you used to get.

Salina: So how many times I can get curated in here?

Salina: I do have a little show and tell for you.

Nikki: Okay.

Nikki: Is it alcohol?

Salina: That would probably be better.

Salina: And I'm very sorry.

Nikki: Hurricane.

Salina: I'm very sorry.

Salina: Can you imagine if I try to take you home?

Salina: A hurricane?

Salina: Just like already made.

Nikki: I'd be willing for you to try.

Salina: Here you go.

Salina: There's a lot of daiquiri places on Bourbon Street.

Nikki: A lot.

Salina: So many.

Salina: And like with every type of food they're like daiquiris and chicken fingers.

Salina: What?

Salina: I did go to the Crystals on Bourbon street one night.

Salina: That was second dinner.

Salina: None of my friends had ever had double crystals before.

Salina: This is amazing to me.

Salina: They were delicious.

Salina: So much greasy, soggy bread.

Salina: So good.

Salina: So someone recommended a couple of voodoo shops.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: And given the work that we've done here on this podcast, you know, I had to pop in, pop through.

Salina: This is my voodoo buddy.

Salina: Oh, no.

Salina: So I picked up a voodoo buddy, not a voodoo doll and it's supposed to bring you luck.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: There's some other stuff in there.

Salina: But anyways, I thought it was so cute.

Nikki: Cute.

Salina: So I'll try.

Salina: Maybe at some point come under your pillow.

Salina: No, he's going to say right here in the podcast room.

Salina: He watches over our recordings now.

Nikki: Oh, good.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: But maybe I'll pop something in stories at some point.

Nikki: National Voodoo Day.

Salina: Thinking about it's my favorite day.

Salina: I'm thinking about like doing some sort of New Orleans tribute video or something.

Salina: But I just need some time.

Salina: I get that.

Salina: And then the last thing I'll say is that New Orleans is just a frankly weird place and I ate it up.

Salina: I loved how weird it was.

Salina: There are so many places in America and especially in the south now, I feel like where you could be dropped off and you don't know where you are because there's a Home Depot, a Wendy's, a Costco.

Salina: But you're not going to get dropped off in this part of New Orleans.

Salina: I'm not saying they don't have that somewhere around there.

Nikki: They have a crystal on Bourbon Street.

Salina: That's right.

Salina: But all the Crystals have a bar next to it.

Nikki: That's true.

Salina: Inside the store.

Salina: So that sense of place I felt that was so lovely and refreshing compared to what I'm used to, I really enjoyed that.

Salina: I enjoyed the diversity.

Salina: A lot of southern hospitality.

Salina: Like, I would say 90% of the people we ran into were not just nice, but like really nice.

Salina: The other 10% were like mean.

Salina: Probably weren't from there.

Salina: I think you're right.

Salina: Yeah, I think.

Salina: I'm telling you, somebody needs to let the staff at Cafe Do on sleep.

Salina: Give them a day off, please.

Nikki: I could never be drunk on Bourbon Street.

Nikki: I've been on Bourbon Street and been around a lot of drunk people.

Nikki: That's a place I don't want to be drunk.

Nikki: It feels too many people, too much zaniness going on.

Salina: Tell you something, Nikki, then you're the.

Nikki: Only one I know.

Salina: Much as I was the only one.

Nikki: I do love a hurricane.

Salina: The buildings were so beautiful.

Nikki: Really pretty.

Salina: Obviously, like, you know, it's not like I've never seen pictures or watched movies, but to be there.

Salina: I want some gas lamps so much now.

Salina: I've always loved gas lamps a lot, but they're just everywhere and I love that they've kept that past history.

Salina: You don't see those everywhere anymore.

Salina: I felt transported to another time and then the very last thing I'm going to mention because this all hearkens back to the podcast.

Salina: You ever go on ghost tours when you're on vacation?

Nikki: I've only been on one ghost tour ever, downtown Lawrenceville of all places.

Salina: I think I may know this.

Salina: Okay, so I go on them like I've been on a few, probably like three or four and I find that they are well, they vary on their mileage.

Salina: Okay, so some of them are pretty good and some of them are really bad and there usually doesn't seem to be a lot of in between.

Salina: But what Casey booked this time was a true crime ghost tour and I thought it was the best one I've ever been on.

Nikki: Oh cool.

Salina: I can't believe how good it was.

Salina: This guy was so into his history and so well studied and really he was like mythbusting and I thought that was amazing.

Salina: So I got to see Marie Levo's house towards the end of her life.

Salina: I got to see Congo Square where she reportedly practiced voodoo.

Salina: And then I also loved the way that he talked about voodoo, because it was very much so in the same tone that we did when we talked about it right here, which is that, honestly, it is just another religion.

Salina: And a lot of the things that demonized it were strategically tagged to slavery and wanting to keep slavery in place.

Salina: And I just thought that was so interesting that he specifically brought that up and talked about how important it was to not get the myths confused with the reality of things.

Salina: Especially someone who he's not from New Orleans but someone who had lived there a long time.

Salina: I just love that.

Nikki: That's nice.

Salina: All to say thank you for talking so good about New Orleans all these years because it finally helped move me to go there and not get so caught up on Bourbon Street and just go down there and have a good time and it was wonderful.

Salina: I'm glad.

Nikki: Well, happy birthday.

Salina: Thank you.

Salina: And speaking of happy birthdays.

Salina: Speaking of happy birthdays, I just really quickly also want to say thank you because today in our recording, nikki gave me like the most wonderful birthday.

Salina: And I know we've already been talking a little bit, but I don't want this moment to pass by to say like, you just made me feel really special.

Salina: You brought over a catered meal for me.

Salina: Well, for us.

Salina: I did.

Salina: Let Nikki eat just in case anybody's like, d***, let Nikki eat.

Nikki: She ate it very slowly right in front of me.

Salina: Both things were from Joanna Gaines'all.

Salina: Three things.

Nikki: Chicken salad was from there too.

Salina: Yeah, we had chicken salad, croissants.

Salina: We had arugula salad, amazing salad.

Salina: It had pomegranate seeds in it, walnuts that you also took extra steps with.

Nikki: It were, like, brown walnuts or something.

Nikki: It was brown sugar.

Nikki: And what was the other thing I saw?

Salina: There's cayenne in there.

Salina: Yeah, which is really good.

Nikki: Oh, it was butter, but brown sugar.

Nikki: And then a little bit of cayenne.

Salina: Just like the good Lord intended.

Nikki: Amen.

Salina: And I would probably be finding myself just picking those out of the salad at some point.

Salina: Homemade dressing that she infused with pizza.

Salina: She's like, I just whip something up.

Salina: And then she homemade biscuits, y'all.

Salina: And we had strawberry shortcake, but we also had it on the croissants, too.

Nikki: Had to, because they were there.

Nikki: They were fresh.

Salina: That's right there.

Salina: And it was amazing.

Nikki: Well, you're special, and I hope you felt special.

Nikki: Happy birthday.

Salina: And she also stitched me the Designing Women, and I will drop something in cross stitch.

Nikki: Cross stitch.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: I'm so domestic.

Nikki: I cannot remember how that came about, but I was on Etsy.

Nikki: Maybe I just searched, like Designing Women on Etsy.

Nikki: Because the thing about me is I'm always thinking, like, six months in advance.

Nikki: So I knew your birthday would be coming.

Nikki: And there are also certain people in my life I love to do this for everybody.

Nikki: Some people just appreciate it more when you get them something they can't just go buy anywhere.

Nikki: I don't need to buy you another set of I'm totally making an example, like, in a set of dishes or a set of body soaps or something.

Nikki: You don't need stuff like that.

Nikki: You want things that are unique.

Nikki: You can buy that stuff for yourself.

Nikki: Other people in my life don't really care for customized personalized things, and they're like, can you just get me the thing I want?

Nikki: So, like, people like you I like to shop for in advance because I like to make sure that I'm giving time.

Nikki: If it's going to be customized or personalized, that takes time.

Nikki: So I think way back after the holidays, I was on Etsy.

Nikki: And I think I just searched like Designing Women, and a cross stitch pattern came back, and I was like, well, I've never cross stitched before.

Nikki: I could probably do it right, maybe.

Nikki: I don't know.

Nikki: Let's buy the pattern.

Nikki: Try.

Nikki: And so I told Salina that I started in late December, early January, and Kyle was like, if her birthday is not till May, what are you doing?

Nikki: And it's not a very big piece, but it took almost that whole time.

Nikki: I'm very glad I allowed myself the time.

Salina: I think it's very detailed.

Salina: It's not like I opened it up, and I was like, oh, thank you for these four potatoes.

Salina: I mean, it's very clearly the four ladies.

Nikki: Very nice design.

Salina: It's the four ladies we spend a lot of time with.

Salina: So we didn't take, like, copious pictures of the milk sometimes you just have to enjoy a thing.

Salina: But we'll drop in a picture of the cross stitch so that people can see.

Nikki: Well, happy birthday.

Nikki: I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Salina: Thank you.

Salina: I'm sorry to delay.

Salina: I just had to well, now I'm trying to think.

Nikki: I don't know.

Nikki: We're at season four, episode 20.

Nikki: There's no good transition.

Nikki: A minute ago, I was going to transition from New Orleans to tornado, thinking about, like, weather patterns, and that just felt wrong, so I didn't take that transition.

Nikki: So we're just going tornado watch.

Salina: Wait, okay, hold on.

Salina: So speaking of hurricanes in New Orleans.

Nikki: But I meant that drink a drink.

Nikki: Yeah.

Nikki: Speaking of alcoholic hurricanes, let's talk about a non alcoholic tornado.

Nikki: Or an alcoholic tornado, I guess, actually.

Salina: Or as Nikki already tried to do.

Nikki: Designing Women, season four, episode 20 tornado watch.

Nikki: So IMDb says, a tornado traps the ladies in the house with daddy Jones, who takes a liking to Bernice, and the milk toast husband of a customer who decides to let loose in an increasingly bizarre evening.

Nikki: Air date February 26, 1990 we're calling this one four gallons of moonshine in a tornado.

Nikki: It was written by LBT and directed by William Crane.

Nikki: My notes from Salina tell me this is the only episode he directs.

Nikki: He was one of the first black filmmakers from a major film school to achieve commercial success, and that was the movie that he released that was like early popularity was Blackula.

Nikki: I ended up down a bit of a rabbit hole because I wanted to know, what else did he do?

Salina: Yeah, I started to put some stuff in, but then sometimes I feel like I'm giving you the most yeah.

Nikki: I just feel weird not saying something without having at least looked into him.

Nikki: So have we talked about black exploitation on here?

Nikki: We did.

Nikki: Right.

Salina: I don't think we've talked about in depth here.

Salina: We talked about it a lot in my film class.

Salina: I don't know if that counts or not.

Nikki: Maybe we talked about something tangential when we talked about Bill Bojangles.

Salina: Yeah, I'm sure we did.

Nikki: Okay.

Nikki: Because anyway, the point was, apparently Blackula was a black exploitation film, which led me to researching what that means as a whole thing.

Nikki: It's interesting, if you're interested.

Salina: It is very interesting.

Nikki: So since we're not going down that rabbit hole, let's go down another rabbit hole of general reactions and stray observations.

Salina: Okay.

Salina: So I think I may be in a Suzanne kind of phase of my life, because in just about every episode lately, she's done something that really feels like maybe it was plucked from my soul.

Nikki: Oh.

Salina: And I'm specifically thinking about these two moments in the episode when she loses her cool.

Nikki: Okay.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: The first one is when Charlene, bless her heart, is I want to say badgering everyone.

Nikki: That's a good word for it.

Salina: She is to say happy anniversary, and then, like something else.

Salina: But, like, on camera to two complete strangers from Poplar Bluff.

Salina: Like, it starts out her parents and I can understand that, but then it's like just literally two strangers, that sense of dread that is all over Suzanne's face while she's asking her and like, pointing the camera in her face.

Salina: Oh, my God, is this how you feel around me?

Nikki: No.

Salina: But then she eventually lashes out and said when no couldn't be heard.

Salina: And she was like, happy birthday.

Salina: I was like, oh, my God, that really resonated.

Nikki: Did your grandmother ever do that to you when you were a kid that she'd like, throw the phone at you and be like, say hi to Lois, your 15th cousin, removed from the right hand side?

Salina: Let me be very clear.

Salina: My grandmother would never do that to me.

Nikki: Okay?

Salina: My grandfather would definitely do that to me.

Nikki: What is that about?

Salina: I don't know if anybody actually is going to hear this.

Salina: It is probably going to be my grandfather because they do listen to the podcast.

Salina: So I want to be very clear.

Salina: I love you very much.

Salina: In a world where I have the choice between being thrown on the phone with a stranger by you or not, I'm going to take a version every time.

Salina: But yes, there has been some times where I know there are people that are important to my grandfather and I appreciate that, but I literally haven't seen them since I was two years old.

Salina: And so I just don't know what to say.

Nikki: You don't have a clue what to say?

Nikki: That used to be the thing.

Nikki: Or you haven't seen them since you're two or you've never met the person before.

Nikki: And they're like, well, just tell them a little bit about your life.

Nikki: And you're like, well, I'm 18 years old, so do you want me to start at one or do you want me to start at 18?

Nikki: Where do you want to start this journey?

Salina: Three?

Nikki: What do I say?

Salina: I think that's right.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: There's no connection points to be had.

Salina: And so it's like, I mean, what are you supposed to do?

Salina: Be like, so I have French toast for breakfast.

Salina: What did you have?

Nikki: Right.

Salina: Yeah, it's a little bit of a.

Nikki: Weirdness, but that's what that reminded me of.

Salina: I wonder if that's Southern, maybe something to think about.

Nikki: It's really funny that you say that about Suzanne.

Nikki: My note about Suzanne in this episode is that she's so rochy in this episode.

Salina: I really understand.

Salina: The second moment I was going to mention is that and I actually have a question for you.

Salina: Is it Mr.

Salina: Peace or Mr.

Salina: Peas?

Nikki: It's Mr.

Nikki: Peace.

Salina: I feel like they say it both ways over the course of the episode.

Salina: And I tried to watch Closer today and I was like, because I see the spelling and the spelling is peace, but sometimes they were saying peace.

Nikki: Yeah.

Nikki: So I actually looked it up both in the subslakescripts.com website where we look at the subtitles, the captions, and it said peace.

Nikki: And I was like, no, they're definitely saying peas.

Nikki: And so I looked@designingwomenline.net and they also say peace.

Nikki: And I was like, no, they're definitely saying peas.

Nikki: So I think I checked IMDb as well, and they say peace.

Nikki: So I finally came to terms with the fact that maybe they are really just trying to say peace, even if it's coming out peas.

Salina: Well, it's very confusing, but towards the beginning when we first meet him and Charlene is offering him tea and they have that like there's this over politeness battle over the tea.

Salina: Oh, I couldn't trouble you.

Salina: Oh, it's no trouble at all.

Salina: After over, like, every drip.

Salina: And then Suzanne finally yells, oh, just make that d*** thing.

Salina: I could totally understand that.

Salina: I could also totally understand the first part.

Salina: So I'm just being understanding.

Nikki: Well, so there was also a cut line, not to skip to strays, but just for a second, because it's on this note.

Nikki: Somebody says, but he's such a sweet, shy person.

Nikki: If he's coming over alone, let's do everything we can to bolster his ego, make him feel like a real man.

Nikki: Oh, Charlene, get real.

Nikki: We're a decorating business.

Nikki: I mean, it's not my job to help some little henpeck nerd feel manly.

Nikki: Anyway, I said, happy anniversary, Lois.

Nikki: And Shimmy.

Nikki: I think that's enough for one day, right?

Nikki: We wouldn't want you to get a hernia from too much kindness.

Nikki: So your girl Suzanne was I think that's a really unhinged in this episode.

Salina: Well, I'm glad that you shared that cut line because I think that's a really important line that kind of helps shade in some of this story.

Salina: I'm not saying we couldn't pick it up from context, but I do think it helps us understand why they're being so extra with this guy.

Salina: I'm with Suzanne on this too, cutline or not, because my thing is not the nerd thing.

Salina: That was mean.

Salina: But if you need to make yourself feel like a man, then you need to take care of that.

Salina: I think that concept is a little generational, and so that does not resonate with me.

Salina: For me, if I'm balancing a career and domesticity, you're going to need to bolster your own ego.

Nikki: It's so funny because I think my approach to these things is just them as a person.

Nikki: And I would just be like, oh, my gosh, this poor person is so put upon by their wife or husband, regardless of whether they're a man or a woman, I would just want to be extra nice to them because it sounds like his wife's a bit of a bully.

Nikki: And it's not really gender specific in my mind.

Nikki: It's just person specific.

Nikki: So I think you might be right that it is a little bit generational.

Salina: Because it never would occur to me.

Nikki: That it's my job to bolster his male ego.

Nikki: It's more just like, I want to be nice to him because his wife is really mean.

Nikki: She's really a bully.

Salina: Right.

Salina: Except she's really not.

Salina: I think she's really just trying to keep control of this, as they would say, whackadoodle.

Nikki: He's a little bit crazy.

Nikki: That's true.

Nikki: In general, to me, this episode is just the epitome of a Filler episode.

Nikki: It just went nowhere and did nothing except make me laugh.

Salina: Yeah.

Nikki: I mean, literally went nowhere.

Salina: Could there have been a better metaphor than a tornado?

Salina: Yeah, because you just spin, spin, spin, round, round.

Salina: Everything gets dropped back down in the same place.

Salina: I mean, not really, but pretty much what happened.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: I have one more general reaction, which is that I mainly felt disturbed by Mr.

Salina: Peace more than humored, particularly the part with him coming down the stairs in the open robe and the speedo.

Salina: Like, I know it's supposed to be funny.

Nikki: He gave me the hebiji with the.

Salina: Background of that song, all I can think is, like, 90s serial killer, like.

Nikki: Silence of the Lamb, except he'd be wearing someone's skin.

Salina: Not wearing someone's skin necessarily.

Salina: I'm definitely thinking Silence of the Lamb.

Salina: Oh, yeah.

Salina: I guess he was wearing somebody's skin.

Salina: That's right.

Salina: I was having a much more visceral memory.

Nikki: I know what you're talking about.

Nikki: Yeah.

Nikki: No, he was weird.

Nikki: He was a really sitting there, and.

Salina: I'm like, if you just change you don't even have to change the music, honestly.

Nikki: Yeah, well, so my thing was, of course, you get a little bit of the conversation about the underwear and the robe being, like, a super inappropriate gift for Reese from Suzanne.

Nikki: Can we talk about the yachting hat?

Nikki: That's from Mary Joe.

Nikki: That's not like, a marginally better gift.

Nikki: Does he yacht?

Nikki: Do we know this about Re?

Salina: I don't know.

Salina: Maybe he's at the Lake Lanier every weekend.

Nikki: It was just such an unusual combination of gifts.

Nikki: Like, we're going to talk about how weird Suzanne is for giving an underwear.

Salina: And roast, which, yes, is weird to.

Nikki: Give your sister's boyfriend that, but it was on sale.

Nikki: You know what I mean?

Nikki: Mary Joe is giving him a yachting hat.

Nikki: Just so, like, nobody wanted to get this guy a set of croquet mallets or something.

Nikki: I don't know.

Salina: Maybe they started with the end result and they just had to work it back.

Salina: How can we get this, man?

Nikki: I think that's what in a yachting.

Salina: Cap and bikini briefs.

Salina: You know what I'm saying?

Nikki: I think that's right.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: Actually strays.

Nikki: So one of my strays was that thing about Suzanne being weird.

Nikki: Mean is really the word I would use.

Nikki: The other stray is what is this look Mary Joe is wearing with, like, a what would you call that hat?

Salina: Ninety S.

Salina: Ninety S?

Nikki: Like, doesn't go with a jersey.

Nikki: So she's when they're cleaning the house at the end, she's wearing a flat, brimmed 90s hat.

Nikki: Like kind of like a Blossom hat, but not quite.

Salina: That's a good description.

Nikki: Blossom, the TV show.

Nikki: And then she's got, like, a Philadelphia Eagles jersey looking thing on and jeans and tennis shoes.

Nikki: The hat maybe is the thing throwing me.

Nikki: I'm like, why?

Nikki: Is that what you put on your head today?

Nikki: Yeah, just a strange look.

Nikki: I don't know.

Nikki: It caught my eye.

Salina: Yeah, it's definitely different.

Nikki: And then we had one guest star alert.

Nikki: Richard Sanders played Mr.

Nikki: Peace.

Nikki: Apparently, he makes two episodes on Designing Women.

Nikki: The next one's, in season five, he's appeared in a ton of TV.

Nikki: It looks like one of his first roles was in WKRP in Cincinnati.

Nikki: I think that's what he's most well known for.

Nikki: He played an eccentric character there too, but he was also unmarried with children.

Nikki: Charles in charge, coach.

Nikki: He's 82 and retired now.

Salina: He looked very familiar.

Salina: So I did look into his filmography and I noted the radio station show.

Salina: I've only seen clips from it, and I'm thinking of it as kind of like a news Radio 1.0.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: I mean, not that it wasn't as good.

Salina: I don't know.

Salina: But just being like the predecessor for that kind of like we work together, ensemble show.

Salina: And I think what you're saying about the other stuff just appearing on a lot of shows is why his face just seems so familiar to me.

Nikki: I don't recognize him at all.

Nikki: So actually, I was surprised that he had such and I'm just like listening a handful of things.

Nikki: There were a ton of credits.

Salina: You know, they say, like a character actor who you don't recognize, you shouldn't.

Nikki: Be able to recognize that.

Nikki: It's pretty impressive that he's been able I mean, it was a huge filmography.

Nikki: It was very long.

Nikki: Lots of random appearances.

Salina: Sorry I lost you at retired.

Nikki: He's 82.

Salina: That sounded nice.

Nikki: That was my last stray.

Salina: I only have one stray.

Salina: So Daddy Jones returns.

Salina: He was really playing up the accent in this one.

Salina: I honestly was having a little trouble understanding what he was saying.

Nikki: Oh, really?

Salina: I needed the script pulled up.

Nikki: Oh, interesting.

Nikki: I didn't have that problem.

Salina: It almost sounded to me like he had something in his mouth.

Nikki: Have to watch it again.

Salina: Okay.

Salina: We'll come back and you'll tell me if you actually watched it again.

Nikki: I didn't.

Nikki: Nikki from the future.

Salina: I did not watch it.

Salina: I did not have time for that.

Salina: So, what did you like about this episode?

Nikki: I think the absolute high point of the episode was the footage at the end.

Nikki: The stuff in Charlene's video.

Nikki: That was so freaking funny.

Nikki: It was all of it.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: I really bought it.

Salina: So this was a like for me too.

Salina: It sounds like something that she would do.

Nikki: Yeah.

Salina: Also, I didn't think about it until I rewatched it this morning.

Salina: But they did a nice job finding a way to tie in.

Salina: Why?

Salina: She would have had a camera anyway with her doing the anniversary video or whatever.

Nikki: Yeah.

Salina: And I don't know, I like that it was, like, fast paced in a way where we got everything but that we needed to we didn't need to spend all that time there.

Salina: And I thought it was just a really great way to capture everybody's moment.

Nikki: Oh, funny.

Nikki: I thought it was hilarious.

Nikki: Any episode of Bernice, as you know, is a winner in my book.

Nikki: I also really loved when she said, they say too much of that bug spray will make you go crazy.

Nikki: And I figure I haven't got a real wide margin for air.

Nikki: And then when Charlene said, Bernice, you're so funny today, and she said, Charlene, we've already covered that.

Nikki: Try to keep up.

Nikki: I really liked that.

Salina: Definitely in my likes.

Salina: I classified the whole thing as we get the return of not just Bernice, but feisty Bernice.

Nikki: Oh, yeah.

Salina: So she was, like, super feisty in this one.

Salina: She also tells Mary Joe, very matter of factly, like, when she offers her coffee, she goes, Cream, no sugar, and please don't screw it up.

Salina: It's definitely how I'm going to make my order the next time.

Salina: It'll be a little tough because I like black coffee, but I'm just going to tack on please don't screw it up.

Nikki: Please don't screw it up.

Nikki: Black coffee, don't screw it up.

Salina: I also really liked what she said about the retirement village.

Salina: I don't know if you caught the cut lines there, but they really made it sing and I don't have to go through all of them.

Salina: It's just that she probably rolled out four or five more examples of things that they have them doing and I would be exhausted, too.

Nikki: It sounds like a lot.

Nikki: I actually don't know why that didn't make it into my notes.

Nikki: I thought I had it there at one point, but yeah, there's a lot going on.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: The one I really liked was macrame belt.

Nikki: Macrame belt?

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: I'm like, sure, that sounds great.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: I mean, I kind of would like a macrame belt.

Salina: I don't want to make it, though.

Salina: I just, like, have one, but yeah, I never really thought about that before, but I think they do have a lot of activities going on.

Salina: And I like that she's like, I'm not a potter.

Salina: What do you want from me?

Salina: I'm just trying to rest.

Salina: So I loved all of that.

Salina: And then we got a call back to when Suzanne actually accidentally used Charlene's breast milk and her coffee, which you.

Nikki: Mean her mother's milk.

Salina: I don't know which one's worse.

Nikki: Yeah, I don't know.

Nikki: Their smell is weird.

Nikki: To me, mother's milk is just odd.

Salina: I just picture, like, a tree don't and then my last, like, was just that.

Salina: Aside from the general creepiness of some of the guests, I actually thought the night seemed really fun.

Salina: They're cutting up cake.

Salina: They're having some drinks.

Nikki: They're fantastic.

Salina: They had power the whole time.

Salina: Power the whole time.

Nikki: Oh, my God.

Nikki: Yeah.

Nikki: That's the perfect night.

Salina: I mean, sure.

Salina: Only their tornado got hit by a tornado, which also I felt like I could identify with.

Nikki: They all survived, including Olivia and Mrs.

Nikki: Philpott.

Nikki: Phil.

Salina: Yeah.

Nikki: I'm not worried.

Nikki: I have two more things I really liked in this one.

Nikki: We had another good example of them describing things being funnier than if we had actually seen it.

Nikki: Right?

Nikki: So Anthony talks about Bernice laying out the window, blowing on her rape whistle while Daddy Jones played his mouth harp or harmonica.

Nikki: That made me laugh really hard.

Nikki: And then just Julia not so slowly losing her mind as the episode goes on.

Nikki: She gets slightly more unhinged with every scene.

Nikki: I just loved that that part where she tells Anthony's girlfriend, like, yeah, going upstairs.

Nikki: My house is your house.

Nikki: Tell all your friends, or something like that.

Nikki: That was really funny.

Salina: It was.

Salina: I did think it was funny.

Salina: So we hadn't really talked about Vanessa being back in this.

Nikki: Vanessa.

Nikki: Thank you.

Nikki: I could not think of her name.

Salina: It was good to see her again.

Salina: But I did think it was a little ridiculous that they're like, oh, it's so rainy.

Salina: Let's get you all this wet clothes.

Salina: That girl was dry as long.

Salina: I'm like, everybody who walked in there was dry as well.

Salina: They're like, So you just sopping wet.

Salina: No one is well, they're so focused.

Nikki: On the interior design details that they don't worry about details like the weather.

Salina: Oh, right.

Salina: That's right.

Salina: What magazines are on the table?

Nikki: Exactly.

Salina: What about things that we didn't, like.

Nikki: Have anything except Mr.

Nikki: Peace being kind of creepy?

Nikki: I guess that's one.

Salina: That's true.

Nikki: I didn't write it down.

Salina: But this one, I only have one thing, and this is picky.

Salina: And it has nothing to do with the show.

Salina: It's just my body reaction to it.

Salina: I crawled back up inside myself when Daddy Jones said, but you can call me Daddy.

Salina: And Bernice said, oh, I like that.

Nikki: I thought that was so funny.

Nikki: I always love hearing Julia go, okay, daddy, daddy.

Salina: I'm almost surprised she said it because I almost wanted to be like, no, I'm all set.

Salina: But I think that's how much she wanted him out of the house, which is what I think they were trying to relay there.

Salina: I'll do whatever you want me to do.

Nikki: Whatever will get you out of here.

Salina: Right?

Nikki: Oh, I loved when Bernice said that like that.

Salina: How about we rate this sucker?

Nikki: Let's do it.

Nikki: My rating scale is racy tornado outfits.

Nikki: I gave it a 3.75, so I thought it was really funny.

Nikki: I thought it was complete silliness.

Nikki: It didn't take us anywhere.

Nikki: But we went on a circular wild ride, which I appreciated.

Nikki: I don't really even know why I rated it down.

Nikki: Even though.

Salina: Yeah, you may want to think about that.

Nikki: Well, I think it might have been, in all truthfulness, probably because I did have, like, a mild feeling of ick through the whole episode.

Nikki: Like, just a little bit, like, want to take a shower between Daddy Jones and Mr.

Nikki: Peace?

Nikki: The more mr Piece, like he's like an onion, the more layers that came off, the more uncomfortable I got, I don't think, until you said that a couple of minutes ago, like an serial killer, I'm not sure I could have articulated why he gave me the heebie GB's.

Nikki: But I do remember I watched this episode three times, I think, and every time it was just a little more icky.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: I mean, it does feel like there's not a writer's room here, but if there was a writer's room that they were sitting there like, let's do Buffalo Bill, but make them funny.

Nikki: Yes.

Nikki: And that just, I think, probably, for me, gave me a little bit of heebie GB's, but the ending really brought it together for me.

Nikki: When they showed that video, I laughed every time.

Salina: Yeah, the footage was hilarious.

Salina: It was really the part where Mary.

Nikki: Joe puts the cake in his face.

Salina: And he just keeps dancing.

Nikki: I just loved it.

Salina: It's very funny.

Nikki: Maybe he's more bearable with cake all over his face.

Salina: Maybe he's more bearable when the police are dragging him away.

Nikki: Right.

Nikki: You know, also, though, I do have to say, the idea of Reese getting putting Reese's head on his head also gave me the heebie jeebies, because those would have been gifts for Reese, which, theoretically, he never would have worn.

Nikki: But it still gave me the hebgbies.

Salina: Yeah, I just don't think that's probably a good outfit for anyone, except maybe Prince.

Salina: Prince could pull it off.

Nikki: Yeah, you might be right.

Salina: So I gave it 4.5 out of five transmission fluid checks.

Salina: Wink, wink.

Nikki: Some guys out there drinking out of gasoline can.

Salina: I really liked it, and I liked it even more on real.

Nikki: That just seems really high.

Nikki: I'm surprised.

Salina: It was time it was time to.

Nikki: Perk it up a little bit.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: Just give it a little something.

Salina: We've already talked about it, but as far as, like, a bottleneck episode goes or whatever it is.

Salina: But it's so well done.

Salina: And yeah, I mean, there was no real character growth, but basically they put everybody in a room together, they tossed in some variables, and they let the actors get gasoline.

Nikki: Just poured the whiskey on or the moonshine on, I guess.

Salina: Right.

Salina: And sometimes you just have to let funny actors cook.

Nikki: Just be funny.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: And that's all they really needed.

Nikki: They were funny 90s things.

Nikki: Oh, boy, there was a lot in this one, obviously.

Nikki: Charlene's, camcorder, naughty pine tables with a high gloss.

Nikki: Yeah, I should have Googled this in my head.

Nikki: What I'm picturing is that, like, orange, yellow wood that you can see the, the wood pattern on that's.

Nikki: So yeah, there was a reference to Johnny Carson, Mary Joe's kids going home alone after school.

Nikki: That felt ninety s to me.

Nikki: At some point in the early odds people started caring and then comparing Mr.

Nikki: Peace to Prince when he's coming down the stairs.

Nikki: That's good.

Salina: I had going to pay a traffic ticket in person, which was Daddy Jones's excuse for being in Ohio.

Salina: You do sometimes still have to if you are particularly bad.

Salina: But most of the time they'll just take your money.

Salina: You can just phone that one right in.

Nikki: I got a speeding ticket one time in Athens and I went in person because I meant to argue it and I chickened out and I just pledged no low instead.

Nikki: So I've been in person to pay a traffic ticket.

Nikki: Yeah, I got nervous.

Salina: What year was that?

Nikki: I'm in 2004.

Nikki: 2005?

Salina: Just 17 years ago.

Nikki: A long time ago.

Salina: It feels good, doesn't it?

Salina: Longer than that.

Salina: Oh my God, I can't even count that high anymore.

Nikki: Oh God, you do that to me?

Salina: I don't know.

Salina: I did it to myself too.

Salina: I'm three months old.

Nikki: You just had a birthday.

Salina: I'm three months older.

Salina: I know.

Salina: Asking to use a phone book and not 90s but just dated.

Salina: You catch that tornado on the TV?

Salina: Are they kidding with that?

Salina: It was definitely like Kansas and like a TV show from the beginning of wizard of Oz, which I believe was actually made in the come on guys.

Salina: They're like here in Atlanta.

Salina: And I mean I know that Atlanta hasn't always been as big of a city as other cities, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't an open field that.

Nikki: Looked like way cross or something.

Salina: That was so funny.

Salina: Okay, southern things.

Nikki: The mouth organ.

Nikki: So this is what Anthony called it.

Nikki: I assumed he was talking about the little thing that you put right here and go I think that's a mouth harp.

Nikki: I think a mouth organ is a harmonica.

Salina: It's not my favorite name if I'm honest.

Salina: Yeah, I don't like it.

Nikki: They also specifically mentioned the College Park area of Atlanta.

Nikki: That's where the news says some of the storms were seen.

Nikki: That really is a place.

Salina: That's my old stomping grounds.

Nikki: There you go.

Salina: I was born basically next door, College Park.

Nikki: Bubba spokes moonshine of course.

Nikki: Daddy Jones saying the old bulls finally out of the barn.

Nikki: It felt southern.

Nikki: And CNN is the network playing charlene's video and as we all know that's based here in Atlanta.

Salina: I know I meant to look up if like that contest was a real contest or not at the time.

Nikki: But I didn't think about that.

Salina: I didn't until this morning.

Salina: It was just like, you know, we talk about bridges too far, that one.

Nikki: Then you brought it up anyway just to let us all know how much you let us down.

Salina: I know, I'm so sorry, y'all.

Nikki: Cool, man.

Salina: Feel free to let us pieces up.

Salina: I was just going to say that I think daddy Jones is the southern content from this one.

Salina: So you've already mentioned a few.

Salina: He described where he lives as, you know, back down in my part of the woods down there, but he lives in north Georgia.

Nikki: But, you know, in the south, one thing I've noticed, everything is down there.

Salina: That's what I'm saying.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: Right.

Salina: So it feels southern for everyone to just think they're from down there.

Salina: And it does not matter where you are from or you're over yonder, wherever you are, it's general.

Nikki: I used to think I was really bad at directions, and then I think one day I finally realized, no, I've just been raised by a bunch of southerners, so everything is down to me.

Nikki: I'm like, oh, down in north Carolina.

Salina: That's the exact opposite of down in Canada.

Nikki: I can't help it.

Salina: It's true.

Salina: It really is.

Salina: I'm bad at directions, just naturally.

Salina: Although I did tell my mom recently, I was like, it's kind of your fault because she would take different routes every time.

Salina: She's a big backrobe person.

Nikki: I love a backrobe.

Salina: If there's even, like an ounce of traffic, she's like, no, I'm going to take this three hour route to get me out of this 30 so you.

Nikki: Don'T have to sit in the lake.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: And so I was like so I never knew.

Salina: I was like, I don't even know how you knew that.

Salina: Many different ways to one place.

Salina: There was like two roads, but you took ten different ways.

Salina: Anyway, so what I'm trying to say is I can't find my house hardly.

Salina: That's what you need to know.

Salina: So he talks about square dancing, too.

Salina: I just wanted to say that that feels southern.

Salina: I think it's like the ho down kind of like whatever, anytime anybody tries to recreate one, they're like, put some hay in there.

Salina: And I just want to be clear that when I looked it up because I was like, well, maybe it is southern.

Salina: I really have no idea.

Salina: It actually originated in England and a hoe down originated in the midwest.

Salina: So it literally has nothing to do with the south.

Salina: But even I didn't know that because it feels so entrenched in the idea of being like a southern ism.

Salina: That was a really long way of me saying my southern reference is not a southern reference.

Nikki: Glad you took us on that journey.

Salina: I took you on that journey.

Salina: I think you got my oh, he calls some he calls bernice sugar.

Salina: Just all of that honey pie sugar, sweetie, honey bunch is always going to feel very southern to me.

Salina: Making excuses to go somewhere and drink.

Salina: Let's go outside and check.

Salina: The transmission fluid has got to be the most southern thing I have ever heard.

Salina: That's just really right up there.

Salina: I'm telling you.

Nikki: I want someone to come to my house and have moonshine in their car.

Salina: I mean, I can do that for you.

Nikki: Just want to nip outside and have a drink, come back in.

Salina: That's so funny.

Salina: I don't know that just really drink it outside.

Nikki: There's just something about it.

Salina: I was just like, man, I feel like I'm back in Henry county or something.

Salina: Idaho down, naturally.

Salina: References that we need to talk about.

Nikki: I don't have anything.

Salina: The only thing I had is I needed to look up whether or not daddy Jones was from the south in real life.

Salina: Dub Taylor is his name.

Nikki: Did I not do a guest star on him?

Salina: Sorry, Dubsy.

Salina: You just don't even care about him.

Salina: Well, it's his second episode anyway.

Salina: He's from Richmond, Virginia.

Salina: So I just wanted to say, like, that's not fake.

Salina: Yeah, I just wanted to share that.

Salina: And it appears that the Thomasons like him because he will go on to appear on evening shade.

Nikki: He was in his 80s when he did this role.

Salina: Maybe what I was hearing was just.

Nikki: Him getting older because he died at 87 in 1994.

Salina: Oh, really?

Nikki: Four years later?

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: I mean, he looked like he was up there.

Salina: I think he started a bunch of westerns.

Salina: I wasn't going to take everyone through that, but I didn't know if we had a bunch of wild bunch fans here, but I'm pretty sure that's a big western.

Salina: And like, I don't follow that genre, but I'm pretty sure that's a popular one.

Salina: And I think he was in it.

Salina: Yeah.

Nikki: Well, I'm so sorry, Dubsies.

Nikki: I should have mentioned you at some point.

Nikki: He seems interesting.

Salina: I think he seems interesting, too.

Nikki: Thanks for taking us there.

Salina: Well, you know, that's the job.

Nikki: That's what I pay you for.

Salina: That's what my texts are for.

Salina: Well, that's all I have.

Nikki: All right.

Nikki: Next episode, season four, episode 20 tough enough.

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Salina: TTV 737-187-6899.

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Nikki: You can find ways to support the show on our website along with our show notes.

Nikki: And Thursday, we want the folks to come back for extra sugar because we're.

Salina: Going to be talking about prohibition inspired by all the moonshine in this episode.

Salina: Moonshine.

Nikki: I can't believe you didn't do moonshine.

Nikki: For this recording session.

Salina: That's going to need its own special.

Nikki: Whatever and you'd make it in the bathtub.

Salina: Surprise.

Salina: Actually, go ahead.

Salina: And our special thing that we'll be doing on Thursday is normally we're not very sober for these, but this time, Nikki, we're going to have to be sober.

Salina: We're going to be following the 18th amendment, if you know what I'm saying.

Salina: So just go ahead and put your bourbon down.

Nikki: Fine.

Salina: Just no fun.

Nikki: Fine.

Salina: So you.

Salina: Know what that means?

Nikki: What does it mean, Salina?

Salina: It means we'll see you around the bend.

Salina: Bye.


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