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Designing Women S5 E18 - An Interesting Arrangement of Dirt Clods

Updated: Feb 20

Sugarbaker’s is thrust into the world of contemporary art – and things get weird for everyone. Julia is suddenly a hot new artist, Charlene keeps trying to use the artwork, Mary Jo is lugging around a bumper, and Suzanne glued her lips together. Phew! Art is hard work. 

Come back Thursday for an Extra Sugar where we’ll dig into some of the most intriguing contemporary art we could find. 

Come on y’all, let’s get into it! 



Salina: Hey, Nikki.

Nikki: Hey, Salina.

Salina: And hey, y'all.

Salina: And welcome to sweet tea and tv.

Salina: Hey, y'all.

Salina: I have something beautiful planned.

Nikki: You do?

Nikki: Yes.

Salina: It's very artistic.

Salina: Could it be?

Salina: Do we have questions?

Nikki: Is it my turn?

Salina: Yes, please, God, take it.

Salina: Okay.

Nikki: This is designing women season five episode 18 this is art I can't make myself form a question.

Nikki: The ladies attend a contemporary art exhibit opening where Julia becomes an instant sensation when her purse is mistaken for an exhibit piece.

Nikki: Meanwhile, Mary Jo tries to find a cheap way to fix Charlene's car after she dings it.

Nikki: And Suzanne accidentally glues her lips together while trying to fix her fingernail.

Nikki: Air date February 25 we're calling this one an interesting arrangement of dirt clods.

Nikki: It was written by Stephen Roth and Deanne Roth.

Nikki: This is the only episode they'll write.

Nikki: They previously wrote for.

Salina: Hey, dude.

Salina: Oh, yeah.

Salina: That was very good.

Nikki: Thanks.

Nikki: It's directed by Roberta.

Nikki: Sherry Skelza.

Salina: Yes, I learned that this morning.

Nikki: I caught that at the last minute, and I only pointed it out to you because I didn't want you to be confused when we got here, and I was afraid I'd forget to tell you.

Salina: You know, it's just.

Salina: It's always David Trainor.

Salina: In my eyes, it is always David Trainor.

Nikki: And in my notes, this time, it's Roberta.

Nikki: I also tried to look up Stephen Roth and Deanne Roth, and I only found one blog post that said Deanne never had any other credits to her name after this episode.

Nikki: I wonder what she went off in life to do.

Nikki: Steven had a couple more things.

Nikki: I'm Deanne Roth.

Salina: That was your big news for today?

Salina: Yeah.

Nikki: All right, general reactions and stray observations.

Nikki: Where can you get us started, Salina?

Salina: Where can I.

Salina: Well, I just thought that this one was pretty fun and clever how they brought the amb plotlines together for the end of the episode.

Salina: That is Mary Jo selling one of Julia's paintings to pay Charlene back for dinging her car, which you just mentioned.

Salina: So, yeah, just good fun.

Salina: Like, the last.

Nikki: Reaction is, I think this episode might have veered into the too ridiculous for me.

Salina: Oh, no.

Nikki: You know, I love the shenanigans, but I think I had more dislikes about the way they made the shenanigans happen in this episode that made it, like, not super fun for me to watch.

Nikki: But you know what?

Salina: See who changes whose mind.

Nikki: I didn't think too hard about the fact that they brought together the car accident with.

Nikki: I mean, I obviously knew that's what happened, but I didn't think about it as being sort of like a wrap up for the episode.

Nikki: So that's nice.

Salina: That's my upside moment for today.

Salina: Oh, okay, good.

Salina: Whatever the opposite of Debbie Downer is, upper positive Polly.

Salina: Either way, positive Polly is good.

Salina: Upper Ursula is the name of a drug dealer.

Salina: Go on.

Salina: The little mermaids drug dealer.

Nikki: Oh, no.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: I think it's silent over here.

Nikki: Nikki muted my micro Ursula later tonight.

Nikki: I also felt a gap in this episode.

Nikki: Without Anthony, I feel like he would have had a thing or two to say about the art.

Nikki: And then can you even imagine Bernice?

Nikki: What would her reaction have been to some of these things?

Salina: There's no episode where I'm like, we just don't need Bernice.

Nikki: She's not relevant here.

Salina: Yeah, she won't make this better.

Nikki: That was my last general reaction.

Salina: Julia, to your point about maybe not everything working for you, was obviously annoyed that her art gallery friend sold her purse as art.

Salina: So it did feel strange to me that she actually then put her paintings in the gallery.

Nikki: Yes.

Salina: Okay.

Nikki: Yeah, I think maybe this is somewhere I was having this.

Nikki: What is it?

Nikki: Bumping against this concept of Julia being so uppity and snotty about art and the value of fine art and blah, blah, blah.

Nikki: And then they sell her purse, and she thinks, what'd you say?

Nikki: Fruit bowls.

Nikki: Right.

Nikki: And then they sell her purse, and she thinks, like, how stupid is this?

Nikki: But let's try to sell my fine art of the bowls that I had sitting on my counter.

Nikki: But I was really glad this was one of my likes.

Nikki: I'm going to jump right there now.

Nikki: I really liked how she came back at the end and actually said, she's really confused about everything now.

Nikki: She thought she used to know something about art, and now she just doesn't even know what's happening anymore.

Nikki: We rarely get Julia admitting anything like that, so.

Nikki: I really like that.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: I mean, I usually like an episode where she gets taken down a peg, even though I like her a lot.

Salina: But it's just like, I think she just always feels so confident in everything that.

Nikki: And condescending.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: Sometimes they just need to know.

Nikki: There were a few pieces of art where I was like, julia, even.

Nikki: You think this is stupid, right?

Nikki: Just admit it.

Nikki: Just admit.

Salina: This is my last general observation, which could be a reaction, which could be a stray observation.

Salina: I'm kind of giving that away already.

Salina: I think getting your lips cut apart with an exacto knife is one of the more terrifying things I've heard on this show or anywhere.

Nikki: It does sound terrifying.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: I mean, just like, the idea of, like.

Salina: But what if.

Nikki: Can I admit something dumb?

Nikki: I don't think I even let my brain go to how they were going to get her lips apart.

Nikki: So I was thinking like an acid or something.

Nikki: I just assumed.

Nikki: And then when she said exacto knife, I was like, no.

Nikki: It sounds like a horror movie, doesn't it?

Salina: It must be.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: Also, that can't be true, right?

Salina: That's not going to happen.

Salina: The only thing I can think of, the strongest glue I've ever come across was on the moss sheets that they sell at hobby lobby.

Salina: Oh, my goodness.

Salina: That got stuck to my hand pretty badly the other week.

Salina: I was definitely having a little flash of this episode, and then it was like, getting stuck to itself, and I was, like, waving moss around, attached to my hand in the air.

Nikki: I didn't even want this moss in the first place.

Salina: Yeah, but it's mine forever now.

Nikki: I think if anybody's a dermatologist and wants to let us know what they would do if a patient came in with their lips glued together, that would be nice.

Salina: That would be nice.

Salina: But I probably have some other questions for you first.

Salina: Probably hop in that line.

Nikki: Personal needs.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: Actual strays.

Nikki: So many.

Nikki: I pulled a Salina and I looked up what the $2,044 car repair would look like in today's dollars.

Nikki: Did you do this also as well?

Nikki: Okay.

Nikki: Did you come up with 40 718?

Salina: Oh, that's.

Salina: Were we using two different inflation.

Nikki: What did you come up with?

Salina: I came up with 4500 or what a few episodes would have been.

Salina: R1 Pearl necklace.

Nikki: Well, maybe we looked it up on different days.

Nikki: Inflation got worse.

Salina: It probably did.

Salina: It probably is the difference between the last couple of months.

Nikki: Of course, that also means that if they sold her purse for $5,000 today, that would be like $11,500.

Salina: Yeah.

Nikki: Crazy Julia bought her purse at JC panties.

Nikki: Does that surprise you?

Salina: Oh, I don't even remember that.

Nikki: It's when she answers the phone and she says, as Julia Sugar Baker's personal agent, I would advise you to go check your local JCPenney's accessory department.

Salina: I'm trying to think of JCPenney's of 1991, but I still think she would have been at riches.

Nikki: Yeah.

Nikki: And the other place I thought of was lord and taylor.

Nikki: I don't know.

Salina: Have we ever had a lord and Taylor?

Nikki: There used to be one at the Mall of Georgia.

Salina: Closed because no one could afford to go.

Nikki: No one could afford to go there.

Nikki: But she strikes me as sort of like or maybe just boutiques or something, but JCPenney's.

Salina: Yeah, I hear you.

Salina: I think that's fair.

Nikki: And then I had one cut line I wanted to share.

Nikki: Okay.

Nikki: It's actually a cry for help now that I'm reading my notes.

Nikki: After the chairs are art debacle, there was a cut and I can't quite figure it out.

Nikki: So we have listener Adam, who has the dvds and I'm hoping he can tell me what was said.

Nikki: So this is right after Charlene said, you're kidding me.

Nikki: That looks like a big bunch of chairs to me.

Nikki: It was something along the lines of, I'm sorry they don't have some pictures of clowns crying or those children with the big eyes.

Nikki: I love those.

Nikki: I thought you would.

Nikki: Well, what does that mean?

Nikki: It means she thinks we are cultural illiterates and probably ought to buying our art at gas station parking lots.

Nikki: I think we should probably ought to stop buying our gas art at gas.

Salina: Station parking lots and stop buying your.

Nikki: Gas at art houses parking lots.

Nikki: Anyway, I would love to know if that's what it was.

Nikki: And what I appreciated about this cut line one is I think it bridges to a comment about parking lot gas station art later.

Nikki: But also I appreciate that one of the women finally just sort of put it on the nose how snotty Julia had been about this whole thing.

Nikki: Every comment she's made in the episode up to this point has implied that these women are buying artwork at target every weekend.

Nikki: Right.

Nikki: Which I think is fantastic.

Nikki: But true art lovers may not appreciate, and I just appreciated they finally called her out on it.

Salina: Yeah, I like that.

Salina: I have one more stray, which is just that Julia's art school days in Paris.

Salina: Is this the first we've heard of this?

Salina: I want to say yes.

Salina: Well, yeah, she does have a french affinity.

Salina: She is a bit of a hinkophile.

Nikki: Because all that time she spent at the sore buttons.

Salina: Who among us haven't had sore buns?

Salina: But she did do the french cooking class in season four, so she does have an affinity.

Nikki: But I don't remember ever hearing that she went to art school in Paris.

Nikki: And I feel confident saying that because Charlene seems surprised by that fact.

Salina: Delia's lived a lot of lives.

Nikki: She go to, like, University of Mississippi.

Salina: Or something, I thought.

Salina: Yeah, her Miss Ole Miss, I think.

Nikki: Yeah, all right.

Salina: I think so.

Nikki: I guess they studied abroad there, but.

Salina: They never mentioned it.

Salina: You know how they fudge up their ages.

Salina: It's like they put them as 15 years apart or whatever.

Salina: But then every other episode.

Salina: They're only two years apart or something.

Salina: They're at college.

Salina: Same time.

Nikki: Yeah.

Salina: Oops.

Nikki: Suzanne, watch.

Salina: How are you feeling about it?

Nikki: Okay, so this one.

Nikki: This was obvious enough for me.

Nikki: They just literally glued her lips together.

Salina: Season six, episode one.

Salina: Will that be obvious?

Nikki: I feel like they don't like something's happening.

Nikki: What, I wondered.

Nikki: So we mentioned at the beginning that this episode was written by some designing women unknowns.

Nikki: So, Stephen and Dean, do you think they got some kind of creative direction to find a creative way to leave her out?

Nikki: Like, what does that conversation look like?

Salina: I don't really.

Salina: I think that's a really interesting question.

Salina: I don't know how any of that would come to be except for the fact or, like, how far in advance were they writing these?

Nikki: Well, we know when LBT was writing them, she was writing them pretty quickly right before they aired.

Nikki: But, yeah, I don't know if this was written a long time ago, but it was so on the nose, they literally just glue her lips together.

Nikki: And to your point, from maybe the last episode, I will give Delta Burke full credit for the physical humor of this one because for someone with their lips glued shut, she did so much.

Salina: So much.

Nikki: She accomplished so much and made me laugh so hard.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: I was also thinking, too, in terms of, like, suzanne, watch.

Salina: We essentially have, like, a c plot now just for Suzanne.

Salina: So it's like the art stuff is a Mary Jo and Charlene is b, and c is glued.

Nikki: Was that to the point earlier?

Nikki: That probably wasn't intentional.

Nikki: They probably did not mean that.

Salina: Or is it that thing where you just have to figure out what to do with her at this point?

Salina: I don't know.

Salina: Worth mentioning too, that much like the last episode with the smoking, this is another one that people have pointed out a number of times on social media as a really good example.

Nikki: This episode in particular, isolation, this one.

Salina: And the smoking ones are the ones that people pointed out the very most.

Nikki: I don't get the smoking one.

Nikki: I definitely get this one.

Salina: All right.

Salina: Things that we liked.

Nikki: Well, I already mentioned Julia kind of coming around at the end and admitting how confused she is by art at this point in time.

Nikki: I also really liked that random guy who came in to talk to Suzanne at the gallery.

Nikki: She didn't say a word, and he had a whole conversation.

Nikki: So I don't know if that speaks volumes about just, like, people in general or people at art galleries, but it's saying something about somebody somewhere that they can come in and have a whole conversation with themselves.

Salina: I know a few people like that.

Salina: I like Suzanne's review of the Louvre.

Salina: I have no intention of being dragged to one more museum just to look at pictures of small, busted women with large butts lying outdoor, naked eating fruit.

Salina: I will try not to take offense to that.

Nikki: Do you lay around naked eating fruit outside a lot?

Salina: Sounds nice.

Salina: It's like Nikki's worst nightmare.

Nikki: That sounds horrible.

Nikki: That sounds horrible.

Nikki: And what a shame.

Nikki: The louvre was really cool.

Nikki: There's all kinds of cool artwork to see there, and it's not all women laying around eating fruit.

Salina: I would like to go back to the Louvre when I wasn't on the precipice of being very sick.

Salina: And we went, like, almost as soon as we got in.

Salina: I think we flew there.

Salina: There were some trains involved, so I'm trying to.

Salina: It's hard to remember now, but anyways, so we were, like, a little jet lagged.

Salina: We'd already been away for almost a week, and we should have taken a rest day.

Salina: And so I was just in there.

Salina: And I was in there with people who don't necessarily love museums, whereas I could spend a solid week in a museum and not think twice about it.

Nikki: Oh, no, I can't do that.

Salina: I do like to see stuff.

Salina: I think my favorite part in that one is where you see the remnants of the old castle underneath.

Salina: That was really neat.

Nikki: They had, like, a really cool egyptian exhibit when we were there, and we were only in Paris for, like, two or three days, and we had walked, like, 30,000 steps every single day, so we also did not take a rest day.

Nikki: And so we were kind of just like our leg.

Nikki: I honestly was not sure my legs could walk much further.

Nikki: So we prioritized.

Nikki: Like, I wanted to see the Mona Lisa.

Nikki: I just had to see it.

Nikki: And there were some other things that we just had to see.

Nikki: And then after that, it was like everything would just kind of be a nice to have.

Nikki: So we sat a lot at that museum, right.

Salina: Not that you could get our energy.

Salina: Well, I don't know about you, but I couldn't get anywhere near the Mona Lisa.

Nikki: We got pretty close, actually.

Nikki: But it's just like everybody said, so tiny.

Nikki: I was so simultaneously, I'm not sure how this is possible, to be overwhelmed and underwhelmed at the same time.

Salina: That's how a lot of people describe Paris.

Salina: Paris is very sprawly.

Salina: So it's not shocking to me at all that you were stepping 30,000 steps every day.

Nikki: It was so much.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: So great, though.

Salina: But I'd like to go back anyway.

Nikki: I think she missed out.

Nikki: I think she missed out.

Salina: I think you're right.

Salina: The poking at contemporary art was just something that I liked.

Salina: In this one, the pile of dirt and trash on the floor, the payphone on the wall, the black square, the grouping of chairs.

Salina: It all felt realistic to me.

Salina: Those aren't that far off from things that I've seen myself or read about.

Salina: I actually will talk about contemporary art later this week in extra sugar.

Salina: But I did buy a book on contemporary art, and it's bringing me around the bend.

Salina: I'm trying to really expand my horizons.

Nikki: Oh, well, you're about to learn a.

Salina: Lot about it, so buckle up, sweetheart.

Nikki: With my artwork.

Nikki: Horizons being set at.

Nikki: As long as some people love art, that's great.

Nikki: Good for them.

Salina: Yeah, that's understandable.

Salina: Did you have other likes?

Salina: Okay, so I think I'm just with you.

Salina: One part I wanted to mention when this is about Delta and how good she is in this episode, when she knocks that cheese plate out of the one guy's hands at the art gallery.

Salina: I thought that was hilarious.

Salina: Charlene's fake interpretation of what the black square means was really funny.

Salina: I see death and destruction.

Salina: I see evil forces running rampant, possibly a nuclear bomb going off, bathing everything in darkness.

Salina: I'd say it advocates peace.

Salina: How was that?

Salina: Which I thought was pretty good, actually.

Salina: Mary Jo dragging that bumper into the office to make things right with Charlene just made me laugh.

Salina: It was just like.

Salina: I don't know, it was so ridiculous.

Nikki: I didn't put this in my notes, but I'm going to say it anyway.

Nikki: Have you ever been to a upoll place or car stuff?

Salina: I don't think so.

Nikki: So it's like a big giant car graveyard.

Nikki: And they keep a database of the different types of cars they have in the junkyard.

Nikki: And you can go to them and you can just pull off parts and then you pay by the pound or whatever their situation is.

Nikki: So I drove a 93 eagle Talon, which is the same body as a Mitsubishi eclipse from that year, and the same body as one other type of car.

Nikki: So you can go find those cars and then you can pull the pieces off.

Nikki: And my car was falling apart, so it was missing things.

Nikki: So I went to a upol place with my stepdad and got, like, the visor to go at the sun visor, some of the knobs for different things.

Nikki: We spent, like $25, and my car was, like, actually back in one piece.

Nikki: So Charlene made kind of a snotty comment about crappy stuff from used cars.

Nikki: And I was like, give it a chance.

Nikki: A bumper is slightly different, but give it a chance because it might just save you some money.

Nikki: They don't make cars like that anymore.

Salina: Well, I feel like we've gotten this.

Nikki: An old man now.

Salina: I feel like we've gotten this line before, and it's just this idea of, like, if you don't have a lot of money, that issue is a big issue to you.

Salina: Right.

Salina: And if you are Suzanne, who's gotten her car dinged before I married Joe, or, oh, it was other way around.

Salina: Mary Jo hit or Suzanne hit Mary Jo's car.

Salina: Or if you're, on the other hand, it's a little bit of like, a power dynamic, is what I think I'm trying to say.

Salina: On top of the fact that for Charlie now, ever since she's been with Bill, she doesn't really worry about money anymore.

Salina: So to act like it's no big deal and then start making specifications about, like, it's like two different.

Salina: Just accept it and then be like, just go get.

Salina: And just.

Nikki: She probably could have done that.

Nikki: That said, I mean, I'm not saying she's totally in the wrong, because she did say, just leave it alone.

Nikki: Like, I'll figure it out on my own.

Nikki: Mary Jo pushed the issue, and she's like, the reason I'm not making a big deal is because I want this done a certain way.

Nikki: And you're not listening to me and you're doing it your way.

Nikki: And that's really annoying me because I don't want to do it your way.

Nikki: I want to do it my way.

Nikki: So I'm not saying she's wrong.

Nikki: I just really wanted to talk about.

Nikki: You pull car places.

Salina: You trying to get a sponsor?

Nikki: They're very handy.

Salina: Yeah, no, that's great.

Salina: That's good.

Nikki: That's fantastic.

Salina: I love that Suzanne letting loose once she can talk again.

Salina: I really enjoyed that.

Salina: She says, julia, you made a big fool out of yourself at that gallery.

Salina: And that Rosalind friend of yours.

Salina: Or is it Rosalind?

Nikki: My bib is going to ask.

Salina: She dresses like a shepherd.

Salina: Also, Mary Jo, I can't believe that you gave Charlene all that money because she didn't want used parts on her car.

Salina: Please, she comes from that hillbilly territory.

Salina: You know, they all got about 400 junkie used cars up on blocks in their front yard.

Salina: And then they offer to close their lips again.

Salina: And then the cute button on the end with Charlene accidentally super gluing the super glue to her hand was pretty good.

Nikki: How about dislikes?

Nikki: We talked about this maybe two episodes ago.

Nikki: Now, there was multiple miscues by Charlene on the artwork.

Nikki: So first it was the stuff on the floor, then it was the payphone.

Nikki: Then it was the chairs.

Nikki: It just got kind of tired after a while.

Nikki: And then that paired with the rhinoplasty thing from episode 16.

Nikki: We've been with this character long enough to know that she's not, like, dumb.

Nikki: She can be a little ditzy from time to time, but this level of dumb was really annoying.

Nikki: I don't know that she would run into that many miscues.

Salina: Oh, okay.

Salina: Because I'm like, the payphone.

Salina: She just is tricky.

Salina: Maybe.

Nikki: But it's in the art gallery, to Mary Joe's point, like, you're in an art gallery, you just think they have a phone hanging on the wall for you to make a phone call.

Nikki: I don't.

Nikki: Just one right after the other.

Nikki: If it had been by itself, if that had been the example, that would have been funny.

Nikki: But it was the second in a series of three, and it was just like, all right, we get it.

Nikki: Like, charlene at this point, you know, if it's in this room, don't trust.

Nikki: Even.

Nikki: Even a ditzy person is smart enough to know that she had a line toward the middle or end of the episode where she says, van Gogh only sold one painting in his entire life.

Nikki: You're tied with van Gogh.

Nikki: That's the sort of, like, ditzy goofy that I think is really funny and works for her character.

Nikki: She knows enough about life to make funny comments, but they're, like, nonsensical comments, like, comparing Julia and Van Gogh is nonsense, but doing it in an educated way is really funny.

Nikki: And I just feel like that's the kind of jokes I like to see.

Salina: From her, for what it's worth, and it may be worth diddly squat.

Salina: I did not read it as Charlene is ditzy.

Salina: I read it as contemporary art is stupid.

Salina: And that's what the show was telling us for sure.

Nikki: And I think if every character standing there had made that mistake about something.

Salina: Or they kind of, like, trade it off.

Salina: Exactly.

Nikki: Then I definitely read that.

Nikki: But I think they kept giving it to Charlene, and I was like, okay, mary Jo also is admitting that this stuff is dumb.

Nikki: So can she get one of these?

Nikki: Can Suzanne try to sit in a chair, like, something that's not just Charlene.

Nikki: That was really irking me.

Salina: I can hear that in your voice.

Nikki: That's all I had I didn't like in this episode.

Nikki: I can hear that in your vocal cord.

Nikki: Got very angry.

Salina: So you want to rate this one because I had no dislikes in this episode.

Nikki: I didn't just change your mind?

Salina: Not on that, no.

Salina: Sure you don't want to double check that?

Salina: I'm a little scared.

Nikki: So my rating scale is c's of over interpretation.

Nikki: That's what the man said to Suzanne after he called her an anti interpretationist.

Nikki: I gave it three out of five seas of over interpretation.

Nikki: This one falls in the category of I probably don't have enough dislikes to mark it down any lower.

Nikki: And it was perfectly watchable.

Nikki: But if I had a choice, I wouldn't rewatch this episode.

Salina: Hey, I've been there.

Salina: Well, I gave this one five out of five.

Salina: We're always like this.

Salina: I gave it five out of five.

Salina: Anti interpretationist, motel motif enthusiast.

Nikki: I wanted to do something with motel.

Salina: Motif that was so great, so good.

Salina: I went back to see if we.

Nikki: Had named this episode yet because I thought Motel Motif would be a funny one.

Salina: There's still time.

Nikki: Yeah, well, now we're past it.

Salina: Now the moment passed.

Salina: Can't have anything.

Salina: I had a bad run on ratings there for a while, and given I had no dislikes on this one, I just couldn't see anything but a perfect score this time around.

Salina: It just made sense.

Salina: I think the episode had lots of funny bits, and for me it was well paced.

Salina: It was silly, but I think it played on some real concepts, the sillier parts of the art world and people with money but no sense.

Salina: So I like that aspect of it.

Salina: And it made me go look a little bit closer at this kind of art that usually doesn't work for me and maybe make me think a little bit about what that says about me versus what that says about contemporary art.

Nikki: I'm glad you had that level of self introspection.

Salina: I'll tell you something.

Salina: I'm 38 with no children.

Salina: I've got only introspection left.

Salina: 90s things.

Nikki: Something about the whole plotline just being about contemporary art feels distinctly ninety s to me.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: Not fair.

Salina: The payphone art today, I think it would be clear that it was trying to say something because nobody was using, or nobody's using payphones now.

Salina: There's people on earth who don't know what that is.

Salina: Oh, the person that owns a gallery, she says, we'll make out the receipt in my office.

Salina: That's a lot.

Salina: Southern things.

Nikki: They mentioned the high museum.

Nikki: They do a museum in Atlanta.

Salina: I think it's probably arguably our most prestigious or prestigious art museum.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: In Georgia.

Nikki: Yeah.

Salina: Julia called them her under things.

Nikki: That's what I call mine.

Salina: Well, you're southern.

Nikki: Sometimes I call them underoos under.

Salina: I mean, that we can all agree is better than panties.

Salina: All of us can agree to that.

Salina: References.

Salina: We need to talk about anything.

Nikki: I don't have anything.

Salina: Mine was just the Van Gogh.

Salina: Did he really just sell one piece of art?

Salina: Like I knew it, but I took.

Nikki: Charlene's word for it.

Salina: Well, you really trust know.

Nikki: I do.

Salina: So it will be a really weird one to make, but.

Nikki: So they made it up.

Salina: No.

Salina: According to Van Gogh Gallery, red vineyard at Ares, that's the name of.

Salina: That was the only painting that ever sold in his lifetime.

Salina: And it's now at the Pushka Museum in Moscow, in case you were ever there and want to see it.

Salina: The rest of Van Gogh's more than 900 paintings were not sold or made famous until after his death.

Nikki: That's wild.

Salina: It really is.

Salina: I always find stuff like that really interesting.

Nikki: I also really love when they discover van Gogh paintings in an attic in Italy or something.

Nikki: Like only in Europe would they find a 300 year old piece of art that's just been a hanging out in an attic.

Nikki: Just hanging.

Salina: I know.

Nikki: I just love that.

Nikki: All right, are we ready for the next episode?

Salina: So ready.

Nikki: Season five episode 19 blame it on Nolens or like in King of Queens.

Nikki: Sometimes they say New Orleans.

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Nikki: We have additional ways available on the website from our support us page and then come back Thursday.

Nikki: Salina, this one's all yours.

Nikki: What's it about?

Salina: We're going to be talking about contemporary art and then we'll also highlight some museums right here in the south.

Salina: I'm actually going to try and stay away from Atlanta and Georgia because it feels too the south, but not where.

Nikki: We live, anywhere but here.

Salina: So our tagline.

Salina: Just kidding.

Salina: All right, well, you know what that means, Nikki.

Nikki: What does it mean?

Nikki: Salina?

Salina: Means we'll see you around the bend.

Salina: Bye.


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