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Designing Women S3 E18 - Menage a Trois Marriage
Updated: Jun 1
In a tale as old as time, Charlene, Bill–and the exotic dancer they’re both handcuffed to–will take that age-old walk down the aisle where three become one. Join us as we break down all the wedding festivities!
Stick around for this week’s “Extra Sugar” – we’re talking bachelorette parties y’all!
Some reads:
Rough Night and a History of Bachelorette Parties for Brides | Time
The 10 Best Bachelorette Party Destinations in the U.S. (you can link out to lots of great information and specific itineraries from here)
Come on, let’s get into it!
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Transcript
Salina: Hey, Nikki.
Nikki: Hey, Salina.
Salina: And hello, everyone, and welcome to Sweet TNTV.
Salina: Hey, y'all.
Salina: Welcome.
Nikki: Are you ready to rate this sucker?
Salina: Yeah, we're just going to jump, right?
Salina: We're not even playing around.
Salina: We're not going to tell you what episode.
Salina: We're just going to rate it and then just jump right into extra sugar.
Nikki: Oh, my gosh.
Nikki: What if we did?
Nikki: That would be amazing.
Nikki: If we just shared our rating scale and our rating and justification and then people had to guess what episode we were talking about.
Nikki: Yeah, that would be fun.
Salina: That would be fun.
Salina: I wanted to ask you a question to start off.
Nikki: Today never ends well.
Salina: Just a real thinker.
Nikki: Just a little scratcher.
Salina: Yeah.
Salina: Would you rather we might go through a series of would you rather?
Salina: But I'm just going to start off with one.
Salina: Okay.
Salina: Would you rather lose all of your money or all of your pictures?
Nikki: All of my pictures, I'm afraid.
Salina: Same.
Nikki: Yeah, I got them right up here.
Salina: But I really need that cash to pay the mortgage.
Nikki: Yeah, I got to go with pictures.
Nikki: I can lose those.
Nikki: Yeah, that said, I mean, I don't want to lose them.
Salina: Yeah, I don't want to tell you I thought that you might be in a little bit more of a churn over it than that because like your mom children.
Nikki: Can I tell you something maybe sad or horrible?
Nikki: I have gone through the mental exercise of what if our house burned down?
Salina: Oh, sure.
Nikki: And I think I've already made peace with the fact that pictures would be something that would be gone.
Nikki: Now we have a bunch of digital pictures, which is great, but still we could lose those.
Salina: Yeah.
Nikki: So I've had to make a lot of peace with material things and being okay with those things being gone.
Nikki: Money is a material thing that's critical.
Nikki: Like swear the money gone, my life would be gone.
Nikki: Do you know what I mean?
Nikki: I can't buy food, right?
Nikki: Easy.
Salina: Next.
Salina: Well, the next thing is, come on and marry me, Bill.
Nikki: Oh, that's it?
Salina: Yeah.
Salina: I didn't want to hit you with a bunch of questions, so we were just going to do the one.
Nikki: Wow.
Nikki: Season three, Episode 18 come on and marry me, Bill the show.
Nikki: So we got another Salina description here.
Nikki: I see.
Nikki: Was this the one you were really unhappy with?
Salina: I can't remember.
Nikki: So Salina says the sugar baker's ladies are in a frenzy as they happily prepare for Charlene's wedding.
Nikki: But Bill Stag party throws some dangerous curves that could sabotage the elegant plans.
Salina: I think I just left Salina's description in there from the last one.
Salina: I don't think that's mine.
Salina: That doesn't even sound like me.
Nikki: Stag party.
Nikki: I was like, that's a weird word choice for you.
Salina: Yeah.
Nikki: Okay, so this week's episode description was what I just read.
Salina: It's one of them, though.
Salina: Probably hulu.
Salina: I don't know.
Nikki: Air Date April 10, 1989 we're calling this one Menage attois Marriage.
Salina: You say that like somebody who speaks French.
Nikki: What was my French teacher's name?
Nikki: She should be so proud that I can say Menage attois.
Salina: I know.
Salina: Was it Miss Menage?
Nikki: So in an exciting and dramatic twist, charlene's Madam friend Monet returns for this one.
Nikki: But this is where there's no good transition.
Nikki: Sadly, the actor who played her bobby, Faye Ferguson, passed in June.
Nikki: She was 78.
Nikki: And you got a little something about her coming up later.
Salina: I do.
Salina: We'll Salina's sidebar about her and talk a little bit about her life and some of her achievements.
Nikki: Okay.
Nikki: So this episode was written by LBT.
Nikki: And again directed by David Trainer.
Nikki: So let's get into it.
Nikki: This is a big episode.
Nikki: General reaction, stray observations.
Salina: Do we need to talk about the this Is Your Life show they put on at her bachelorette party?
Nikki: Oh, yeah, sure.
Nikki: You have a strong opinion.
Salina: Oh, did you not have any thoughts about that specifically?
Nikki: I thought that whole scene was a little cringy.
Salina: Yeah.
Nikki: And I had read on I don't think it's in my notes.
Nikki: I had read on Designingwomen.com that this episode in particular gives fans, like, the warm fuzzies.
Nikki: And that scene in particular, I think it said, really sits with people.
Nikki: And it really gave me the Heebie GB's.
Nikki: It was just weird.
Salina: Yeah.
Salina: Okay.
Salina: The stories that they were masking who was there and telling these stories behind this bedsheet or whatever.
Salina: And these did not hit great for me.
Salina: I couldn't tell if some of the jokes because everybody's like the real dramatic laughter.
Salina: I couldn't tell if maybe the jokes weren't good or if they were really just trying to write them in that character.
Salina: And so they were supposed to be.
Salina: That's what's kind of cute about them is they're not funny.
Salina: I wasn't sure.
Salina: And then I had an unanswerable question about this bit, which is, are some of these tidbits from LBT's life?
Salina: Like, there were people telling stories about her back in Missouri?
Salina: And I was just wondering we don't really know, but it's possible.
Nikki: Yeah.
Salina: Some other things that I thought can.
Nikki: I say one more thing about that scene?
Nikki: It's related to that.
Nikki: I looked into it and again, my brain working because I'm scrolling through my notes.
Nikki: I looked into it to see if any of LBT's family or her husband's family were part of that scene.
Nikki: Because and I mean this with all the love in the world, some of those people did not seem like actors.
Nikki: So the very first story that was told, that person was not a trained actor, in my opinion.
Nikki: And so I was curious if that was family.
Nikki: And I was not successful in finding out.
Nikki: But I have read in a few places that they are notorious for dropping family into episodes.
Nikki: So I would be shocked and appalled if someone told me no one in that room was relation.
Salina: Well, and then I'd just rather know that that was a real story about LBT.
Salina: And I think that would make more charming warm and fuzzy charming kind of thing.
Salina: Actually, all of my general reactions are about that.
Nikki: Oh, okay.
Salina: That's it.
Nikki: Wow.
Salina: It must have really stayed with me.
Nikki: Must have.
Salina: So I can see how fans, like, really big fans of the show are excited about some parts of it.
Salina: So I did love suzanne bernice, mary joe and julia lip syncing to wedding bell blues.
Salina: Now, this also was prominently featured in gilmore girls in the episode where richard and emily renew their vows.
Salina: Do you remember what song they sang?
Salina: Bill, I love you.
Nikki: They were lip sync.
Salina: Julia goes on to sing another song.
Nikki: She's also lip syncing.
Salina: Not in that next one, I don't think.
Salina: Oh, you think so?
Nikki: Really rigged.
Salina: I bet you they recorded her.
Salina: Yes, for sure.
Salina: Okay.
Nikki: It's hard for me to watch.
Salina: I think sometimes I never know if I'm getting, like, a delay, and there was a weird not a delay because it's not live.
Salina: I don't know if you know this or not, but it's not 19 eight.
Salina: Yeah.
Nikki: That part of them singing.
Nikki: My buddy that julia was singing at the piano.
Salina: I didn't like that song.
Nikki: I loved it so much.
Salina: You love that song so much?
Nikki: I loved it so much.
Salina: Did you really?
Nikki: Yes.
Nikki: The lines the words were so sweet.
Nikki: The concept of my buddy, like, not my song.
Salina: I don't like the word buddy.
Nikki: Oh, see, I love it so much.
Nikki: It's so endearing and so, like any of your friends, buddy, it's of a different time.
Salina: Yeah, I see that.
Nikki: It felt very nostalgic.
Nikki: It felt very and the lyrics were so sweet.
Nikki: I really loved that.
Salina: So some of it was getting me in my feels.
Salina: But that song just I don't know.
Nikki: It didn't do it.
Salina: That was another one that didn't hit well for me.
Salina: I also was, like, thinking about this idea where, except for in very special circumstances, having to sit there and look your friend dead in the eyes while they sing you a full song.
Nikki: Weird.
Salina: Okay.
Salina: This is what I'm saying.
Salina: And I think that was what was uncomfortable for me, even more so than the song I know I've sang to a friend before.
Salina: And holding that eye contact the whole time, holding eye contact for a long time, anyway, is just weird.
Salina: But also doing it with the song, that's just another level.
Nikki: Julia has this thing, though, where she performs at a lot of their parties.
Nikki: And, like, we've talked before about dixie carter dixie's inclination, so I feel like I feel comfortable saying this, that no one's going to be offended.
Nikki: None of my friends are performers.
Nikki: So if they were singing to me for an extended period of time, I'm not sure it would be the most enjoyable experience.
Nikki: Oh, I think there are a couple who have beautiful voices and maybe it wouldn't be so bad, but it's not in their character.
Nikki: So, like, if I was used to my friend singing, singing at parties and stuff, I'd almost be offended if she didn't sing me a song.
Salina: Doesn't that feel like of another time?
Salina: Yeah, I think we talked about that.
Nikki: When we talked about Dixie Carter's proclivities for laying on the piano.
Nikki: No, we made that part up.
Salina: No, that's true.
Nikki: That's true.
Nikki: Okay.
Nikki: She would, like, lay out on the piano.
Salina: I think that's true.
Salina: She definitely would come to the top of the banister.
Nikki: Yes.
Salina: And she'd be like fashionably 15 minutes late.
Salina: And she's like, oh, are you all waiting for me?
Salina: Which I love because she is dramatic on the show, but not in that way.
Salina: That's in a really showy way.
Salina: And I would have just loved to have been on a fly on the wall for that, or even a guest.
Salina: I don't have to necessarily be a fly on the wall.
Salina: That's how I like to attend parties.
Salina: I had one more thought about this, which was that this was all very g for a bachelorette party.
Salina: No.
Nikki: Charlene.
Salina: Yes.
Salina: Well, yes and no, because I don't know that she's that g.
Salina: But her family is very Baptist, and so since there were a lot of family and attendance, I get it.
Salina: But my point in this is don't underestimate women.
Salina: They get wild.
Nikki: Yeah, for sure.
Salina: The only people I know who get.
Nikki: More wild are the girls.
Salina: I was going to say moms on that first excursion out after you all been holed up in the house a long time.
Salina: Oh, you wild.
Salina: You haven't necessarily been able to drink a lot.
Salina: So the soft pitch real fast, that's the only Wilder group.
Salina: Fresh new moms.
Nikki: That's a good point.
Nikki: That's a good point.
Nikki: The only other thing so one general reaction is I thought this was a really sweet episode.
Nikki: There's different strokes for different folks.
Nikki: I thought my buddy, like I said, was very it felt sentimental.
Nikki: It felt of another time.
Nikki: It felt dreamy, in a way.
Nikki: So I loved that.
Nikki: I will say I'm shocked this was just one episode, part one, that they.
Salina: Didn'T do the bachelorette part.
Salina: Yeah.
Nikki: So it wasn't split over two episodes or split over a season, honestly.
Nikki: Or a season ender or something.
Nikki: It just feels like these days, even in a sitcom, a wedding just traditionally gets a two parter.
Salina: Yeah.
Nikki: You would get the bachelorette party and then the wedding on friends.
Salina: I feel like Ross got married the whole season when he got married.
Salina: To Emily.
Nikki: To Emily.
Nikki: Good lord.
Salina: Season four or something.
Salina: I mean, we just spent the whole time on that wedding.
Nikki: Emily really sticks with you like toilet paper on your shoe.
Nikki: She just would not go away.
Nikki: So that struck me.
Nikki: I also had read, I'm going to go back to designingwomenonline.com, which is like my resource for everything.
Nikki: They said this episode was really special to LBT.
Nikki: It said that LBT Became the first writer in TV history to write 35 consecutive episodes of a show, which we talked about in our finale finale, Extra Sugar, this last season.
Nikki: So they marked the 50th episode of Designing Women with a special episode, which was this wedding.
Salina: Oh, okay.
Nikki: So this was a special episode.
Nikki: So I think that's part of why it fell.
Nikki: When it fell, it just was kind of awkward to me.
Nikki: Yeah.
Salina: And I don't want like, I did like this episode, and I think more of the things that I liked will come up in likes.
Nikki: Yeah.
Nikki: In terms of strays.
Salina: Yeah.
Nikki: I wanted to mention that Noel got a mention in this episode when Mary Joe says, charlene had every right to tell Suzanne she couldn't bring her pig to the reception.
Salina: Right.
Nikki: So we had that whole discussion in episode 15 about that being the last time Noel would appear.
Nikki: So at least she's here in spirit for now.
Salina: Yeah.
Nikki: We have yet another bud.
Nikki: Fraser.
Salina: That's right.
Salina: We sure do.
Nikki: Barry Corbin this time.
Nikki: He's been in a ton of things.
Nikki: His voice to me again, like Mrs.
Nikki: That's what got me, because I know him from The Ranch on Netflix is.
Salina: So funny because I have a note here where I talk about like I went and looked through his filmography because I recognize him most as Whitey from One Tree Hill.
Salina: He was the coach.
Nikki: I've never watched One Tree Hill.
Salina: Really?
Nikki: Never.
Salina: I think you'd like it.
Nikki: I probably would.
Salina: The early years, I think it kind of went off the rails a little bit, like most of those teeny soap dramas do.
Salina: You just run out of content.
Nikki: Right.
Salina: But that's what I knew him the most from.
Salina: But when I was looking and saw Ranch, I have a note here that says, Nikki.
Salina: You'll know him?
Salina: From the ranch.
Nikki: I love that show so much.
Salina: He was also on Yellowstone recently, and that's a big hit.
Salina: And then he's, like, got an extensive filmography and actually he's about to be in a highly anticipated Scorsese movie.
Nikki: Oh, that's good to hear.
Salina: Good for him.
Nikki: In The Ranch, he has hearing AIDS and they're pretty visible.
Nikki: I don't know if that was part of his character or if that was just part of him getting and he looks very different than he does in this episode.
Nikki: It's aging and whatnot, but he looks like he's aged a lot.
Nikki: And so I honestly was a little worried.
Salina: Well, that's what 40 years will do to you.
Nikki: Right.
Salina: Especially since he's already playing, like exactly.
Salina: But I feel like I don't know.
Salina: A lot of hearing AIDS are invisible, so I feel like if you could.
Nikki: See them, they must have been part of the character.
Salina: Yeah, it feels like a character choice.
Nikki: But it was just interesting that I don't really know him, honestly.
Nikki: From anything else.
Nikki: And my first reaction was he was an older guy.
Nikki: And so to see him in this.
Salina: Context, it was weird.
Salina: It was really weird.
Salina: Because he looks so young.
Nikki: Yeah.
Salina: I mean, even though he's not young.
Salina: But I think that speaks to 40 years.
Salina: Right?
Salina: 40 years.
Salina: And it's just interesting because we did talk about this.
Salina: We kind of queued up the fact that this was going to happen.
Salina: And here we are on a third father second this season.
Salina: Ronnie excuse me, clarie Edwards still showing up as the mom.
Salina: There was probably, like a scheduling conflict or something, but it's very weird for five episodes later or whatever it is.
Nikki: To be super noticeable.
Salina: Yeah, like you would have even noticed that then, I think.
Nikki: Right?
Salina: What else did you have in Strays?
Nikki: I mentioned this a second ago, sort of.
Nikki: So Uncle Howard's toast was really glorious.
Nikki: It was glorious.
Nikki: What's more interesting is that it was played by Howard Bloodworth, who is actually LBT's uncle.
Nikki: And that goes back to my point about just not being able to put my finger on it, but some of these people felt homegrown.
Salina: I think it was homegrown.
Salina: But also giving the speech at a rehearsal dinner is like a pretty it feels coveted or something.
Salina: And so for me, the reason I wound up looking into it was just because I was like, wait, I've not once heard of this Uncle Howard person, and here they are getting their own speech.
Salina: I know sometimes to get paid with SAG, you need to get in a line or something, but a whole speech, that felt significant.
Salina: And that's where I was like, Something's going on here.
Salina: But, yeah, it's interesting.
Nikki: I had one more Stray, which goes to the stag party or the bachelor party.
Nikki: This was important enough to me that I had to write it down.
Nikki: So I'm curious if you feel the same way.
Nikki: Were we all uncomfortable by that lady dancing right in front of Reese at the bachelor party, or was it just me?
Nikki: It was a lot of gyrating and a lot of Hal Holbrook's eyes moving, and it was Heebie GB for me.
Salina: There's a significant age difference there.
Nikki: It's just awkward.
Salina: Also, I think the whole thing is a little uncomfortable.
Nikki: That whole little bit.
Salina: Was her name little Latin lope?
Salina: Don't love that little Latin loopy in the south?
Salina: Yes.
Salina: Do you recognize her.
Nikki: Now that you've said it?
Nikki: Now I can't tell if I'm having a flashback to the show or from somewhere.
Nikki: You tell me who it is.
Salina: It was driving me nuts because I was like, she looks so familiar to me.
Salina: She was in the very beginning of the first Austin Powers International man of mystery.
Salina: Oh, my gosh.
Salina: A lot of china.
Nikki: Yes, that's her.
Salina: That's her.
Nikki: Oh, fascinating.
Nikki: I can see.
Nikki: Yes, 100%.
Nikki: I see that now.
Salina: And I don't know if this was like this with your friends.
Salina: We saw that movie no fewer than 150 times.
Nikki: Not with my friends, with my sister.
Nikki: We used to watch that movie a lot.
Salina: Well, if I had a sister you would have watched.
Salina: I would have watched it a lot with her.
Nikki: But my dad also really loved Austin Powers.
Nikki: So we would go every time the movies came out, we'd go see it in the theater.
Salina: I heard rumor.
Salina: It can't be a big rumor if I've heard it, but I understand there's a rumor.
Salina: There are rumors that they're going to do another one.
Nikki: This feels familiar to me.
Nikki: Yeah, it gets hard to keep track of all the reboots, but that does feel familiar.
Salina: Yeah.
Salina: I don't know because Mike Myers wound up doing a new show on Netflix and I wonder if the performance of that will wind up being the indicator for whether or not they do Powers.
Salina: But I'm not sure.
Salina: What I will say is I love Mike Myers and I think that he's hilarious.
Salina: He's so funny and I've heard some really intriguing interviews with him.
Salina: It just goes to show funny people are pretty serious off Mike.
Nikki: They got range.
Salina: So serious.
Nikki: Yeah.
Salina: It's just interesting.
Salina: You wouldn't think that.
Salina: I only have one more stray.
Nikki: I don't have any more.
Salina: Bill's friend's nickname is Moonwalker and it reminds me, I really think that we need to get our call signs together.
Salina: Just going to get a plug in for that.
Salina: We'll have to give one to each other.
Salina: You can't make up your own call sign.
Salina: I'm sure we'll remember this.
Nikki: I told Kyle I only want to be after we saw Top Gun.
Nikki: Every time I did something cool I would go maverick.
Salina: That's the only one you want to be, maverick.
Nikki: So if you'd give me that call sign, that'd be cool.
Salina: Yeah, absolutely.
Salina: Not a problem.
Salina: So are you ready to Salina's sidebar?
Nikki: It's a sidebar.
Nikki: Salina sidebar.
Nikki: She's got a keyboard looking for a reward by digging deep in the obscure, taking us on a detour.
Nikki: What?
Nikki: You got Salina in Salina sidebar?
Salina: You mentioned this at the top about Bobby Faye Ferguson.
Salina: So she passed away this summer and given her connection to the show, I thought it would be nice to celebrate her by talking just a little bit about her life and her achievements.
Salina: Does that sound okay with you?
Nikki: That sounds great.
Salina: I mean, can you imagine the world where you were like, no, I would.
Nikki: Rather we not honor someone who's dead.
Salina: You probably could have guessed this from the name, but Bobby Faye was a southern person.
Salina: She was born in Memphis and she grew up in Eudora, Arkansas.
Salina: Oh, the connections there are coming.
Nikki: Yeah.
Salina: She later graduated from the University of Arkansas with a degree in speech and communications.
Salina: Circling around two degrees in this room.
Salina: Getting pretty close.
Salina: She was in the top ten in the Miss Arkansas pageant.
Salina: And Bobby Faye also went on to be a high school teacher and she was Teacher of the Year in Little Rock.
Nikki: Oh, that's nice.
Salina: She later became a model and actress, appearing in shows like Dukes of Hazard and Remington Still, as well as Designing Women and LBT's other Babies, evening Shade and Hearts of Fire.
Salina: Oh, get this.
Salina: This is where it'll really start to make sense.
Salina: She was a Clinton appointee and started NASA's multimedia program in DC.
Salina: Later worked for the Department of Homeland Security in La.
Salina: And in this capacity she winds up being a consultant on a few movies and for a TV series.
Salina: So I thought that was interesting.
Salina: I never would have thought that I would have seen I don't know.
Salina: I just don't think that someone's going to be an actor.
Salina: Also is like, I think I'll do a stint at NASA.
Nikki: They got range.
Salina: You can do anything you want.
Salina: Also, I wanted to say acting runs in the family.
Salina: Her son is J.
Salina: R.
Salina: Ferguson.
Salina: He's been in a ton of stuff.
Salina: You'll know him if you see him most recently on The Connors as Darlene's love interest Ben.
Salina: I know him as Stan Rizzo on Mad Men.
Salina: Nikki is going to be googling over there.
Salina: By all accounts, Bobby Faye was quite a human.
Salina: And I just wanted to say that learning more about her really made me enjoy her performance both here and in season one all the more.
Salina: And while you're googling over there, Nikki, I found it.
Salina: Okay.
Salina: You recognize them?
Nikki: I do.
Salina: Okay.
Salina: Speaking of things that we like, what did you like about this episode?
Nikki: Nikki, that was such a smooth transition.
Nikki: I wasn't prepared for that transition.
Salina: Oh, I'm so sorry.
Nikki: Jeff the one just the general general like that.
Nikki: It was a wedding episode full of romance and hijinks.
Nikki: What's not to love?
Salina: That's true.
Salina: I liked Bernice's very appropriate speech at the rehearsal dinner.
Nikki: Yes.
Nikki: I didn't mention that earlier when I talked about Uncle Howard's toast.
Nikki: The flip of that was that Bernice was so good.
Salina: She is the best.
Salina: She gets up on like a table or an ottoman or something and she just lets it rip.
Salina: Oh, my God.
Nikki: And everybody just lets her go for a little while.
Salina: Well, in Mary Joe calling it her very appropriate piece, that to me also just felt very Southern.
Nikki: Thank you.
Salina: That's very appropriate.
Salina: Go ahead and sit down and never talk again.
Nikki: They said that Suzanne drew the short straw to watch her that night, but I just really feel like Bernice is someone that needs maybe more of an Anthony Honor and you can't afford to risk a night like that on Suzanne.
Salina: Yeah, that was maybe not the best call.
Nikki: I would have taken Suzanne out of the running on that one.
Salina: Also, you can't put Baby in a corner.
Nikki: I'm going to have to rewatch her speech a couple of times because it was very funny.
Salina: Yeah, it was good.
Salina: I enjoyed the bachelor excuse me, the bachelor party shenanigans the most.
Salina: I don't know, Reese being there.
Salina: Not the gyrations in front of his face, but just like, him being in the mix for this one and, like.
Nikki: Saying things like, no, Julia would not approve of this at all.
Salina: Yeah, he had, like, a little good one liners between him and Anthony especially.
Nikki: But you're really a Renaissance man, aren't you?
Salina: Anthony loved it.
Salina: Bill and the dancer getting handcuffed together.
Salina: Anthony to the rescue, knowing how to speak Spanish.
Salina: And they were menage tois handcuffs.
Salina: Of course, he knows this as well.
Salina: Charlene and Julia busting them both.
Salina: Lupe cuffing.
Salina: Charlene, too.
Salina: Culminating with all three of them being together as Charlene attempts to get ready.
Salina: I mean, just like when it shows her getting ready and it pulls back and they're both, like, haggard.
Nikki: That was so sad.
Salina: It is.
Salina: But it's just good sitcom stuff.
Salina: It was really funny Monet having a set of keys in her purse because that's what sex workers do.
Nikki: That was great.
Salina: I'm here for it.
Salina: I liked it.
Nikki: She saved the day yet again.
Salina: Yeah.
Salina: And I actually really just liked the whole wedding sequence at the end.
Salina: We get to see everyone in the crowd and I thought that was nice.
Salina: It was like her brother was there.
Salina: Odell was back in the crowd.
Salina: We just pulled in a lot of people.
Salina: I mean, it makes sense, right?
Salina: But that's still a big production to bring all of those people in.
Nikki: She had mentioned Odell was at the bachelor party, so I had to look it up to make sure.
Salina: You don't get a good coffee table.
Nikki: You don't get a good view of him.
Nikki: But we spent some time talking about him in the Odell episode.
Nikki: So I wanted to make sure it was the same guy and they weren't trying to pull a fast one on us like they were with Papa Fraser.
Salina: That's the same guy, right?
Salina: So I like that aspect of it.
Salina: Their wedding attire, lots of hats and, like, even Lupe being in the crowd.
Nikki: Oh, yeah.
Salina: She got excited.
Salina: I even teared up a little bit.
Salina: See, I liked it.
Salina: What about what we didn't like?
Nikki: The only beef I could possibly have, and I think I mentioned this a few minutes ago, was all the singing.
Nikki: There was just so much singing.
Nikki: I think maybe I missed that they were lip syncing that one song when it was the four of them.
Nikki: But every time and I rewatched this episode a couple of times, every time it happened, I had to walk away because it was just so awkward for me and the my buddy.
Nikki: I could listen to that.
Nikki: Although I think Annie Potts's character and I also thought maybe they were lip syncing that, too, because she had sort of like a clownish kind of voice thing happening.
Nikki: Like, we had one episode where she sang and it was at a Christmas party or something.
Nikki: And it was kind of a funny, muppety, sort of sounding voice.
Nikki: That's what it sounded like here.
Nikki: And it just sounded pretend or something.
Nikki: It sounded something.
Salina: I think we said this then, and this would be the way I would talk.
Salina: It's like another era style of singing.
Salina: It's like 30s or forty s, and it reminds me of Snow White.
Nikki: Okay, I can get on board with it.
Salina: Annie Pot sounds better than what I just did.
Salina: But I'm talking about this.
Salina: It's just like a very interesting do you want me to look you dead.
Nikki: In the eye and sing my buddy for three and a half minutes?
Nikki: That was my only beef.
Salina: I just gargling and singing all at once.
Nikki: Every time they sing on this show, it's really hard for me to watch.
Nikki: There's so much lip syncing.
Salina: Yeah.
Nikki: Just can't watch it.
Salina: That's understandable.
Salina: My only thing was, and I was on the fence about was the bachelorette party.
Salina: I think I just wanted a little bit more from that.
Salina: I wanted them to let their 80s teased hair down and I wanted them to run the town.
Salina: I wanted them to paint it red.
Salina: And we got a really G rated bachelorette party, and I just wanted more for Charlene.
Salina: You ready to rate the sucker?
Nikki: I'm ready.
Salina: What you got?
Nikki: This little light of mine.
Nikki: Wedding performances.
Salina: Okay.
Nikki: I gave it a five out of five.
Salina: That's very nice.
Nikki: I didn't really have much against this episode.
Nikki: I thought it was nice.
Salina: I agree.
Salina: I give it a 4.8 out of five.
Salina: Respectable keyless cuffs.
Salina: Got to get some of those keyless cuffs, guys.
Nikki: And a saw.
Salina: Well, just in case.
Salina: But it was fun, sweet, easy, breezy, with enough drama to keep me interested.
Salina: And it wasn't serious drama.
Salina: That's, like, upsetting, right?
Salina: And we got to see our girl get married to someone she loves.
Salina: What's not to love?
Nikki: What's not to love?
Salina: Who won the episode and who butted all biscuits?
Nikki: I mean, Monet, right?
Nikki: She freed him from the handcuffs.
Salina: Bam.
Nikki: Stole the words right out of your mouth.
Salina: Basically.
Salina: Well, I did say, someone get that gal a better job than taking care of the guest book.
Salina: She needed an upgrade.
Nikki: I think she did.
Nikki: She was part of the house party and not the bridal party.
Salina: Yeah.
Nikki: Flashback to last week's section.
Salina: It was a goodie who lost the episode and served us lumpy gravy.
Nikki: So I want to be all girl power and whatnot, but I'm a little cheesed off at Little Latin Loopy.
Salina: Oh, okay.
Nikki: Why would she not have the key to those handcuffs?
Salina: It's her boyfriend's fault.
Nikki: That is just not responsible.
Nikki: Stripping.
Salina: Yeah, but it was her boyfriend's fault, wasn't it?
Nikki: No, I think she left her purse in his car.
Salina: My thing is, why was the solution to Bill and Charlene arguing that she threw the handcuffs on Charlene, too?
Salina: I get it.
Salina: She's tired.
Salina: She's so tired.
Nikki: I think she just wanted to be extra clear.
Nikki: Like, I don't want to get between you guys.
Nikki: This is not about that.
Nikki: This is a total misunderstanding.
Salina: And the best way for me to not get in between you guys is to literally get in between you guys.
Salina: Yeah, well, the best laid plans and all of that.
Salina: I went with all of Charlene's exes because she's off the market now, which I'm pretty sure I've used before in some episode somewhere, somehow.
Salina: But, hey, she's a catch.
Salina: So if I have used it before, it's worth doing it twice.
Nikki: It's true.
Salina: 80S things.
Nikki: They mentioned Animal House, and this is only an 80s thing because we don't have a 70s thing.
Nikki: But Animal House was a national Lampoons film from the late 70s written by, among others, Harold Ramos of Ghostbusters fame.
Nikki: I also noticed he directed an episode of The Office that he watched yesterday.
Salina: I think it's a few, probably.
Nikki: I just happened to notice it.
Salina: You should listen to The Office ladies, and they talk about him, and he just sounds like the most wonderful human being.
Salina: I just love him so much, which is weird because I don't know him.
Salina: Also, he's past, but yeah, he just seems wonderful.
Nikki: So anyone who doesn't know Animal House was the reason most people know John Belushi.
Salina: Yes.
Nikki: It's about a fraternity, and it's a little off color, so that's why Suzanne referenced it in reference to the bachelor party, maybe.
Salina: Yeah, I think so.
Nikki: So that was my only 80s thing.
Salina: I've never seen it.
Nikki: I think I've seen bits and pieces of it, but I don't remember clips.
Nikki: I think I've watched sat down and watched it, but it's like one of those things that I just caddy Shack.
Nikki: Yeah, definitely Caddy.
Nikki: I've definitely watched Caddyshack.
Nikki: Like that sort of in and out.
Salina: Yeah, I'm good.
Salina: I don't know.
Nikki: It's just not that funny to me.
Salina: Yeah.
Nikki: And I think Harold Ramos is hilarious.
Salina: Sure.
Nikki: I think caddyshack is Bill Murray hilarious.
Salina: Comedy evolved, so I think it could have been very hilarious at that time.
Nikki: Well, I also think it's context.
Nikki: I think possibly there's a group of people that would watch that now and think it's hilarious, and maybe that's just not my kind of humor.
Salina: Yeah.
Nikki: I watch Mean Girls.
Nikki: I watch Mean Girls, and I think that's the funniest movie in the history of the world.
Nikki: Kyle watched it with me recently, and with the exception of a couple of lines, he didn't laugh at all.
Nikki: Yeah, he just didn't see the humor.
Salina: Yeah.
Salina: But I feel like Mean Girls is a little bit more modern.
Salina: I think even someone who enjoyed Caddyshack a long time ago, I think if they were just really laughing it up, I think it would be nostalgia more than it just being still that funny today.
Salina: And again, I do really think that's because comedy evolved so much and I think Tina Fey is just such a force that the things that she some some stuff doesn't age as badly.
Nikki: Yeah.
Salina: I mean, Caddyshack classic.
Salina: Go check it out.
Salina: I don't want to crap on really what are inarguably great movies.
Salina: So mine was everything at the wedding.
Salina: 80s.
Nikki: Yeah.
Salina: I mean, Charlene's dress, just the whole bit.
Salina: I mean, it was beautiful, but it was just 1989.
Nikki: Yeah.
Salina: You know, the decorations, everything.
Salina: The shenanigans for this one actually feel very of this era.
Salina: Oh no.
Salina: We're handcuffed together.
Salina: Oh, no.
Salina: No one has a key.
Salina: Oh no.
Salina: You know, I just feel highway state.
Nikki: Patrol had to stop the boyfriend on his way to Shreveport versus just calling a cell phone.
Salina: Right.
Salina: I just feel like also the handcuffed thing was I didn't have time to look into it, but I just feel like that was a really big story plot device at the time.
Salina: I feel like I have seen people get oh, no, we were handcuffed together probably in like twelve comedies from that time.
Nikki: Southern Things ozark Beauty College.
Nikki: This was mentioned by Charlene's sister during the bachelorette party.
Nikki: I didn't do a deep dive, but I did Google it and it seems legit.
Nikki: It seems like that's an actual Cosmetology school.
Nikki: There was a reference to the guy who played Floyd on Maybury RFD.
Nikki: Another one.
Nikki: Yeah.
Nikki: In Shreveport, Louisiana, which is where Lupe was moving.
Salina: Okay.
Salina: Oh, that was good to put that in Southern.
Salina: I'm like we just had Floyd in one.
Salina: That's because that was in my references.
Salina: We need to talk about So I had no Southern things, which I knew was wrong.
Nikki: There weren't a lot of references in this episode.
Nikki: There just wasn't a lot of maybe space for that.
Salina: Yeah.
Salina: So you already mentioned Floyd.
Salina: My other references we need to talk about is the Missouri Walts.
Salina: This is the official state song and has been since June 30, 1949, I think.
Salina: It wasn't even written by anyone in Missouri.
Salina: It was like written by someone in Maine or something.
Salina: Cut lines.
Nikki: There was a bit cut from the opening scene carrying on from the conversation about Noel not being allowed to the reception.
Nikki: Suzanne says, Mary Joe, I guess I'll be picking you up for the wedding since I don't have anybody to take.
Nikki: Charlene says, what did I tell you?
Nikki: She's mad about that pig.
Nikki: Oh, Charlene, don't be ridiculous.
Nikki: If you don't want Noel to come to your reception, that's your right.
Nikki: I just think Mr.
Nikki: Garfinkle's going to be a little disappointed.
Nikki: Who's Mr.
Nikki: Garfinkle?
Nikki: My shoemaker.
Nikki: I mean, he just about knocked himself out designing those little pig pumps.
Nikki: So when's the big bus from Hehaw getting here?
Nikki: Suzanne, if you're referring to my family, they're coming in a nine car caravan because the plane fare would have cost over a million dollars.
Nikki: I'm going to tell them you said that.
Nikki: Oh, lighten up.
Nikki: I bet they would have enjoyed meeting my pig.
Nikki: And then after the cuffs came off you just mentioned that Lupe was in the audience.
Nikki: After the cuffs came off, Charlene invited her to the wedding.
Nikki: And that was cut.
Salina: That's our charlene.
Nikki: Next episode.
Nikki: We are rounding home plate.
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Salina: This week we're talking about bachelorette parties.
Salina: So grab your beer funnel and your obligatory p**** shaped party favor.
Salina: We're about to get wild.
Nikki: Girls Gone Wild.
Salina: Not Girls Gone Wild.
Salina: See?
Nikki: Sorry.
Salina: Nikki.
Salina: Put your top on.
Salina: And you know what that means.
Nikki: What does it mean, Salina?
Salina: It means we'll see you around the bend.
Salina: By.
Salina: Welcome to this week's edition of Extra Sugar.
Salina: So Charlene Spatula at party got us me.
Salina: We interested in the general tradition.
Salina: So today we're going to talk a little bit about the history of bachelorette parties.
Salina: Top bachelorette.
Salina: That's a really hard word to say twice in a row.
Salina: Batch party destinations in the south.
Salina: And then I thought we'd close out by talking about some memories.
Salina: It could be our bachelorette party or it could be someone else's bachelorette party.
Nikki: I thought what happened in Vegas stayed in Vegas.
Salina: Well, be careful.
Salina: Don't break girl code.
Nikki: Yeah, I signed some NDAs.
Salina: Well, then you'll have to tell other stories.
Salina: Also, do you know what bachelorette parties are called in, like, the UK and Ireland?
Nikki: Staguette parties.
Salina: Hen parties.
Nikki: Hen parties.
Nikki: I did know that, actually.
Salina: I don't like it.
Salina: They're just clucking.
Nikki: You know, women just I bet that's it.
Salina: Yeah, it is exactly it.
Nikki: They're laying around on their eggs, just clucking around.
Salina: So Ashley had they threw her a hen party over there and she would tell me, like, kind of update me on what they were doing or whatever, and I'd be like, Stop saying hen party.
Salina: Sorry, Ashley.
Salina: I love you.
Salina: I don't know, it just seems mean.
Salina: Anyways, patriarchy.
Salina: So I found this article in Time and not like in Time, in due Time, somewhere over the cults and histories of Time, but in actually the magazine Time.
Salina: The predecessor of the bachelorette party emerged in the as a second bridal shower of sorts that allowed women to drink with their girlfriends and open more risque gifts like lingerie.
Salina: To contrast with that idea, some form of the bachelorette party has been around for so long that its roots can be traced back to Spartans.
Salina: Fifty S.
Salina: Sixty S.
Salina: Spartans.
Salina: That feels right.
Nikki: Maybe women just didn't want to celebrate getting married.
Salina: Yeah, but the bachelorette party wasn't really cemented in culture until the 80s.
Salina: In fact, the article says the first mention of this type of party first appeared in Time back in 1979, and it spotlighted male strippers in Wisconsin.
Salina: I have to tell you all places.
Salina: That's what I'm saying.
Salina: That was the last location that I was expecting, but good for you all.
Salina: Sociologist Beth Montemuro points to bachelorette parties as a byproduct of the women's liberation movement and sexual revolution.
Salina: I think you could argue that the introduction of these parties for women was really quite progressive for the Times.
Salina: Time also speaks to the evolution of these events, from one night of debauchery to these very elaborate, expensive weekends.
Salina: Sure, the internet and social media have exacerbated things, but the real culprit any ideas?
Nikki: The male stripper industry?
Salina: The male stripper industrial complex?
Nikki: No idea.
Salina: It's a wonderful guess.
Salina: It is none other than the wedding of the century back in 1981, when soon to be princess Diana and Prince Charles married in a wedding seen by 750,000,000.
Salina: Just in case you weren't aware of how many people it was worldwide, suddenly everything had to be bigger, better, more extravagant, and I just don't think we ever really turned back.
Salina: Let's talk about top bachelorette party destinations in the south.
Salina: So I narrowed the list down to four.
Nikki: Okay.
Salina: And basically what I did, I need you to know my criteria.
Salina: Okay.
Salina: It is very important to me.
Salina: I looked across a few lists.
Salina: If they appear multiple times, we're talking about it.
Nikki: Right.
Salina: Okay.
Salina: First on the list wait, do I get to guess?
Salina: Oh, yeah.
Salina: Okay.
Salina: The four that I narrowed it to.
Salina: Yes.
Salina: Okay.
Nikki: Nashville.
Salina: Okay.
Nikki: New Orleans, Charleston and Greenbow, alabama, if.
Salina: You guess that last one because it's a little bit of a sticker outer.
Nikki: Is it?
Nikki: Okay.
Salina: I don't think you'll guess it.
Nikki: It's not somewhere in Kentucky?
Salina: No.
Nikki: Not somewhere in Virginia.
Salina: Yes.
Nikki: Okay.
Salina: Do you want to guess?
Nikki: Charleston.
Nikki: Charles.
Nikki: Charlottesville.
Salina: Shut the front door.
Nikki: I couldn't think of that name.
Nikki: I couldn't think of that city.
Salina: Were you in my notes?
Nikki: I was not.
Nikki: Did I get them all right?
Salina: You didn't name it them in order, but for a second I thought you did, and I was like, she and my notes.
Salina: She's about Google Docs.
Salina: So we'll start with New Orleans, your favorite city.
Salina: And I have to tell you, after I was reading more about it, and you have talked to me for years about how great it is there, and I think it's just hard for me to not get bourbon or to get bourbon street out of my head.
Salina: That is just one part.
Salina: And now I really want to go after looking into this segment, but it's arguably the most obvious choice, and because of Bourbon Street, it's the most obvious choice for celebrating.
Salina: In the bible belt, we get really excited when we can drink legally in the streets.
Nikki: I love debauchery.
Nikki: I love open container laws.
Salina: That's right.
Salina: So there are other creative ways, though, to spend your time.
Salina: Like, I was just alluding to you don't have to be you can be on Bourbon Street the whole time.
Salina: But there's other stuff.
Salina: There's a voodoo museum, swamp tours, ghost tours, live jazz.
Salina: What?
Nikki: Imagining a bunch of bachelorettes on the swamp tour.
Salina: Just like, the fans blowing in the back.
Nikki: Funny to me.
Salina: Hey, it's all stripes.
Salina: Something for everybody.
Salina: But also, like, there's gumbo and beignets, which you'll want to eat in your bikini.
Salina: And, I mean, I'm ready to go right now.
Nikki: I feel like it's also very aesthetic and very instagrammable, which is what I feel like bachelorette parties have become.
Salina: Yeah, I'm like, hold on, I got to put something on Instagram.
Salina: But also, I just can't stand that culture.
Nikki: Not having been to a bachelorette party in lots of years at this point, it's probably been at least five years.
Nikki: No, it's been longer than that.
Nikki: At least seven years that I've been to a bachelorette party.
Nikki: So I don't know how relevant my perspective is on it.
Nikki: But on social media, I just see bachelorette parties.
Nikki: They're just very aesthetic.
Salina: All of these places are.
Salina: Yeah, and that's part of what?
Nikki: That's a criteria.
Salina: Charleston well, do you have any questions for me?
Salina: Just know you can stop and stop me.
Salina: What would I answer?
Nikki: I haven't even been to New Orleans.
Salina: You'd be like, yes.
Salina: Where can I get the best beignets?
Salina: I think I'm all set.
Salina: I'd be like, well, you tell me.
Nikki: Probably not Cafe Dumoned, but it is the most instagrammable beignet.
Salina: Stop.
Salina: I feel like, yeah, it's classic, right?
Salina: Also ran by a female chef, I think.
Salina: Charleston yes.
Salina: This is a great pick because Charleston kind of has it all.
Salina: It's one of my favorite cities.
Salina: It's certainly one of my maybe my favorite city in all of the south.
Salina: You got great food.
Salina: You got nightlife on King Street.
Salina: I want to be very clear.
Salina: I'm old, and even when I wasn't old, I had become old.
Salina: So the nightlife doesn't mean as much to me, but it's there.
Salina: There's also Folly Beach nearby, so if you just need to get in that bikini, you absolutely can.
Salina: There's great shopping.
Salina: I think a lot of people would probably point you back to King Street for shopping.
Salina: That is definitely where your upscale Pradas and stuff are.
Salina: I actually prefer historic Charleston City Market.
Salina: It's an open air market with lots of unique finds, and it also has a cali's hot little biscuit at the end.
Salina: So the historic district is also full of a lot of really cool architecture.
Salina: I mean, that has to be one of my favorite parts about there, which firmly puts me in my late 30s, guys.
Salina: I realize most bachelorettes are probably like, OOH, I want to see this architecture.
Nikki: But maybe I bet they walk drunkenly down the cobblestone streets wondering about the.
Salina: Architecture, but it is that aesthetic.
Salina: So rainbow row or like the pineapple fountain, all of those things.
Nikki: I mean, if you're going to pass out somewhere, you might as well pass.
Salina: Out there on the pineapple fountain.
Salina: Sure.
Salina: Yeah.
Salina: Just like a balloon letting out air.
Salina: Nashville.
Nikki: I love Nashville.
Salina: This was actually top of mind for me because when we were actually sort of planning out the season, nashville was the first place I thought of when we were talking about doing this segment, because in my mind, I would say for the last at least five years, this has been the place.
Salina: I hear everybody saying that they're going for a bachelorette party.
Salina: I was pretty sure I'd seen it as like, kind of like the Vegas of the south or something, but I didn't find any articles that were really saying that.
Salina: It was in a lot of lists, but just as one more thing on the list, which surprised me a little bit, I expected to see some more fanfare, but when it does come to bachelorette parties, the Music City hits all the right notes.
Nikki: Oh, no.
Salina: Someone will love it.
Salina: My mom will love it.
Nikki: Thanks, mom.
Salina: But what they're really known for is live music.
Salina: So it's everywhere.
Salina: Especially on Lower Broad or Aka Honky tonk highway.
Salina: Bar hopping is also something that you can accomplish on Honky Tonk Highway.
Salina: You can tour the nearby Jack Daniels Distillery.
Salina: You can get a ride to the distillery and back from the distillery, and everyone can remain safe.
Nikki: I feel like Uber is very popular in Nashville.
Salina: I would think so.
Salina: I'm guessing Jack Daniels has so much money, they may not need the Uber to do that.
Nikki: We did New Year's Eve in Nashville one year.
Nikki: And Jack Daniels was the sponsor.
Nikki: And they had all through Broadway, they had setups where you could grab a shot or a mixed drink everywhere you turn.
Nikki: Smart.
Salina: Smart.
Salina: Also one of the Southern billionaire families.
Salina: The Browns.
Nikki: That's right.
Salina: The last thing on the list for Nashville good eaton.
Salina: You've got the gulch, the SoBro neighborhoods, and then the Spice.
Salina: You're in the home of hot chicken.
Salina: Nashville hot chicken.
Nikki: So hot.
Salina: Yeah.
Salina: So Hattie Bees is probably the most well known option.
Salina: We also have one here in Atlanta, and I think they're just all over the country now.
Salina: But there are definitely plenty of good ones to choose from.
Salina: Eater Nashville even keeps a running list, so you can always say a breast, a chicken breast.
Salina: I would just like to say I didn't even write that.
Nikki: Okay.
Salina: That was so fancy.
Salina: It just came right to here.
Nikki: Oh, I thought you plagiarized it.
Nikki: I didn't even write that.
Nikki: I just borrowed it from someone else.
Nikki: No, I just came from writing your noggin, it lamely.
Salina: Just came straight to me in the moment.
Nikki: Good for you.
Salina: Last on the list that you also guessed which blows my mind is Charlottesville, Virginia.
Salina: I wanted to include something that was a little less obvious in this one.
Salina: I wouldn't have probably included it, but just kept popping up.
Salina: So here we are.
Salina: Sorry, Charlottesville.
Salina: Not that there's anything I don't know.
Salina: Like I said, it's not the typical choice.
Nikki: I am missing something about Charlottesville because I've heard a lot of conversation about it recently and everybody loves it.
Salina: It sounds like it's a really cute town.
Nikki: I've never been there.
Salina: So for this one, I would say that this is for your wine loving bachelorette party.
Salina: There's the Monticello wine Trail that offers top rate wineries with tourable tasteable vineyards.
Salina: And the wedding wire suggests that Keswick Barbersville and Horton Vineyards as well as Pippen Hill Farm and Vineyards are all good spots.
Salina: Your backdrop.
Salina: The Blue Ridge Mountains.
Salina: So it's not only beautiful to look at, but fun to play in with all your outdoorsy activities potentially on deck, if that's what you want to do.
Salina: Or you could just go drink.
Nikki: I don't care about the backdrop.
Nikki: Just care about the bottle.
Salina: Don't hike and drink.
Salina: It's just a little safety tip from us to you.
Nikki: Or do if you want to.
Salina: I guess you can, but it really feels like a bad idea, like you're.
Nikki: Being really judgmental right now.
Salina: Salina, I just don't want you to die.
Nikki: It doesn't feel safe.
Nikki: No.
Salina: So, Main Street, I wonder is what you're hearing about a lot?
Salina: Possibly.
Salina: But this is where you'll find food and drink.
Salina: And that whole downtown area is supposed to be what's really, really cute.
Salina: So I don't know.
Salina: Virginia is just like it's that place that it is in the south, but it's a really long way from us.
Nikki: It is.
Salina: It takes a long time to drive to Virginia, so I don't know I'll be getting there anytime soon.
Salina: So tell us about it.
Salina: Unless Charlottesville wants us to pay us to go.
Nikki: Sure, yeah.
Salina: Or not pay us.
Salina: Just pay for the trip.
Nikki: And us the trip and food.
Salina: So we'll link to some information for anyone that's interested.
Salina: Maybe you're planning a bachelorette party.
Salina: But even if you're not, like, even though this was for planning a bachelorette party, you can totally just use this to plan a trip.
Salina: Because it got me excited to take a trip, and I am well beyond the bachelorette party phase of my life.
Salina: So our last stop for today's tour would be memories.
Salina: And I just wanted to ask Nikki, is there anything that stands out for you as a memory, whether it be your own bachelorette party or other people's bachelorette parties?
Salina: Would you like me to start off?
Nikki: Yes, please.
Salina: I just have to say that the best part about this is that I also give you a heads up.
Nikki: I know I wasn't ready.
Salina: I was just talking about my own bachelorette party first.
Salina: It was actually a shared event with my friend Sylvia, who got married two months before me.
Salina: So we went to her family's lake house in Alabama, Lake Woodalli, and we hung out.
Salina: We ate good food and drank the drinks.
Salina: Thing is, it's been eleven years now, so the details are a little fuzzy at this point.
Salina: But I do remember a couple of key things that are very bachelorette party.
Salina: One is that we both got together and made shirts for everyone, as one does.
Salina: I still have it hanging around here somewhere, but there is a lady in a martini glass.
Salina: And then also very of the time, I have made some of those redneck wine glasses with the red solo cup on top of the candlestick.
Salina: And I have made that for all of our friends before we went.
Salina: I think I might have even put names or something on them.
Salina: So there's that one.
Salina: We also threw our friend Allie her bachelorette party there a few years later.
Salina: I think my friend Kelly's was one of my more memorable bachelorette parties.
Salina: This is the one where we wound up going to the Cornet Club where there's women on one side and men on the other.
Salina: Tip, pro tip.
Salina: It's not going to be what you think it's going to be.
Salina: What it's going to be is if you go to a strip club, I rarely just say this as like, just go ahead and do this proactively, but be drunk because being sober at a strip club is the pits and I will never do it again.
Salina: Sorry.
Salina: This isn't to poopoo on my friend's bachelorette party.
Salina: That was for me.
Salina: No, but I will say that for me, as a female, there was nothing sexy about a man throwing his p****, trying to throw it over my shoulder.
Salina: Yeah, it's just very aggressive.
Salina: I feel like a little bit forward.
Salina: Can we know names first?
Salina: What do you call him?
Nikki: So it was a male stripper, but I thought this was a patron.
Nikki: I missed.
Nikki: A male, female.
Salina: Either way, the dancer a patron.
Salina: Don't throw your p**** over my shoulder.
Salina: I'm saying that a little bit in jest, but just barely.
Salina: Just barely.
Salina: So it wasn't for me?
Nikki: No.
Salina: And I thought I was like, I'll just go over to the side with women because maybe that's a little bit I don't know, it's just be better.
Salina: And then that got me ten shades of sad.
Salina: What I'm trying to say is there should be a two drink minimum, like at comedy clubs, because you need it.
Salina: You need it, nikki, you need the booze.
Salina: Yeah, I did want to give one more.
Nikki: Okay.
Salina: Which is Casey's sister.
Salina: She had a great bachelorette party in Chattanooga.
Salina: We did a scavenger hunt and a dinner cruise.
Salina: The scavenger hunt was like a lot of fun.
Salina: Those I would tell you that.
Salina: Just honestly, that does not really match up with my personality.
Salina: But this is what shows you that sometimes, like, stop being a b*******.
Salina: Just try something new and you might enjoy it.
Salina: Also, chad and do this.
Salina: Very cute.
Nikki: It is.
Nikki: Yeah.
Nikki: That probably should have made the list too.
Nikki: So I have to comment on one thing, which is your beef with charlene's bachelorette party was that it was g rated.
Salina: Yeah.
Nikki: You have described three bachelorette party four bachelorette party experiences which involved a scavenger hunt cups.
Nikki: You made cups and t shirts with the one outlier being the strip club.
Salina: Well, and all the blow that we did.
Salina: Right?
Salina: I didn't say I just said I said women could get wild.
Nikki: I don't know, that was just interesting to me.
Nikki: I have been to a handful of bachelorette parties.
Nikki: I feel like these things, in theory, are way more fun than they are in person.
Nikki: I have a real problem with male strippers.
Nikki: I don't have beef with the strippers.
Nikki: They make me uncomfortable.
Nikki: And that's a me thing.
Nikki: That's not a them thing.
Nikki: It's just not for me.
Nikki: And I went to one bachelorette party where there was a male stripper.
Nikki: My friends probably have different memories of this than I do, but I made friends with him.
Nikki: He was a very nice guy.
Nikki: The stripper part was uncomfortable for me, but afterwards he was very nice.
Salina: I always make friends with the dancers.
Salina: It just happened.
Salina: I'm sorry.
Salina: Especially when they're women dancers, because I'm like, oh, what are you doing?
Salina: Are you in school?
Salina: What's happening here?
Salina: Tell me what's this like?
Salina: Walk me through it.
Salina: You just wind up chatting.
Salina: I don't know.
Nikki: Yeah, so my bachelor at party, I think it was pretty tame because that's my personality.
Nikki: Unfortunately, the people who hosted it for me, I think, understood that, but it was mostly just we must have gone out or something.
Nikki: I remember going to dinner, and I remember coming back, and we did like, a lingerie party, and then we must have gone out afterwards, but it wasn't wild and crazy.
Nikki: So I don't know.
Nikki: That one with the mail stripper is probably the most wild and crazy I've been because we left there and went to opera, which I don't even know if it's open anymore.
Nikki: But when it was open, that place was a lot to take in.
Nikki: Yeah, it was a lot to take in.
Nikki: That was an intense that was an intense night.
Nikki: But yeah, bachelorette parties aren't my favorite thing.
Nikki: I like a bridal shower.
Nikki: I like a wedding bachelor brunch.
Nikki: I would love a brunch.
Nikki: I would love a brunch with bottomless mimosas.
Nikki: That would be super fun for me.
Salina: So that's the other thing.
Salina: I've had plenty of wild nights.
Salina: They didn't always wind up being on bachelorette party.
Nikki: Right.
Salina: I don't know what to tell you.
Salina: That's just like but that actually I'm glad you said that, because what I would actually say when it comes to these parties and when it comes to these memories, for me and what really rose to the top, I can take shots and funnel beers.
Salina: I mean, I don't do that anymore, but I could do that any night.
Salina: I'm, like, in high school, in middle school.
Salina: No, but the thing that was for me is it's like bonding experiences and time with my people.
Salina: It's with the women who've been an integral part of my life.
Salina: And so it's like this opportunity to share in a big milestone in whatever's going on for them and vice versa.
Salina: And I think that's really what was the most meaningful.
Nikki: I think that scavenger hunt sounds super fun.
Nikki: I think a night away with my girlfriends.
Nikki: And we try to do this a couple of times a year to do a night away.
Nikki: And we have one coming up soon.
Nikki: Away from the family, away from the husbands, away from the kids, just to be us.
Nikki: And the older we get, the more we can just enjoy us.
Nikki: We don't need all the stuff that comes with it.
Salina: All the stuff.
Salina: And I think that's, like, that's sort of like the evolution of friendship, too.
Salina: I remember it like just being our girlfriends.
Salina: Now, you have to remember, my friends and I have been friends since some of us were 910.
Salina: Eleven.
Salina: And so this is a very long, storied friendship, right?
Salina: But it was like that time where it was just you and it wasn't all of this peripheral stuff.
Salina: And then you get into this period where suddenly there always has to be like we'll just call them love interests around.
Salina: And you get into this phase where it always has to be partying or always has to be everybody's, always got to be stimulated, and something fun's got.
Nikki: To be going on.
Salina: And I feel like we're circling back to this phase where we really just get we just want to sit there and talk and catch up.
Salina: And what can I say?
Salina: Like, friendship is a great thing.
Salina: And if this is one additional way to celebrate that, I'm all about it.
Salina: One other thing that I wanted to share is that we'll link to a brides article that describes how to plan a bachelorette party.
Salina: If you're in that phase of your life, including important points of etiquette, that will hopefully help avoid any awkward about who's doing what, who's paying for what, because that gets awkward.
Nikki: That does get awkward.
Salina: And here's hoping that this inspired y'all to travel and get wild and then one day get old.
Nikki: Like me.
Salina: Not Nikki.
Salina: She's very young.
Salina: Three months younger.
Salina: And that's this week's edition of Extra Sugar.