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Designing Women S5 E22 - Another Kodak Moment Down the Drain

Updated: Mar 26

Bill’s back from the Gulf War?! Mary Jo and Charlene are writing a kid’s book?! Julia is just now taking her driving test?! We have questions. 

Meet us in the middle for a Nibbles segment about Southern desserts – all thanks to Bill’s penchant for peach cobbler.

Then come back Thursday for an Extra Sugar all about America’s favorite pastime: watching people get hurt, but you know, in a hilarious way. We’re chatting America’s Funniest Home Videos, y’all. 

Come on y’all, let’s get into it! 





Salina: Hey, Nikki.

Nikki: Hey, Salina.

Salina: And hello, everyone, and welcome to Sweet Tea and TV, where we talk about designing women.

Salina: Was that smooth?

Salina: Yes.

Nikki: So good.

Nikki: Right where I jumped in halfway through and.

Nikki: Yeah, it was great.

Salina: Yeah, well, see, I got distracted because I looked down.

Salina: I realized I have, like, the wrong episode name for this.

Salina: Down.

Salina: Still, you probably don't.

Salina: It's fine.

Salina: It doesn't matter.

Salina: The thing is that I had at one point, wanted to name this something like, bill's back.

Salina: So I started thinking, my boyfriend's back, and I'm going to get into this is all happening while you're queuing the music.

Salina: And then I was like, oh, there was that movie back in the early 90s where that girl's boyfriend died but then came back to life, but he was, like, also falling apart throughout the movie.

Nikki: And I think, is it my boyfriend track?

Nikki: Do you remember that movie?

Salina: I do remember that.

Nikki: It's probably time to rewatch that one.

Nikki: I think it is.

Nikki: I haven't thought about that in a long time.

Salina: Do you think they just took the guy from hocus pocus and just, like, wheeled butcherson?

Salina: That's right.

Salina: Yes.

Nikki: Yeah, I think you might be right.

Salina: Okay.

Salina: Anyways, all that was going through my head.

Nikki: Do you know what's funny?

Nikki: While that was going through your head, I was looking at my screen thinking, am I on the right episode?

Nikki: What episode are we talking?

Nikki: Who am I?

Salina: Are you even at your right podcast?

Nikki: Am I even at the right place today?

Nikki: My other co host is down the street.

Salina: Right.

Nikki: So I guess, mixed up.

Salina: Her snacks aren't nearly as good as mine.

Salina: I'm kidding.

Salina: Kidding.

Salina: They're probably better.

Nikki: She gets every episode catered.

Salina: I just don't have that kind of Jack.

Nikki: I was trying to come up with a name for my fictional co host real quick, but then every name that.

Salina: Came up was Melina Folina.

Nikki: Melina.

Nikki: I like that.

Nikki: Yeah, Folina.

Salina: Well, she sounds hideous.

Salina: Oh, lord, you're wearing khakis.

Salina: Anyways, sorry.

Salina: We're here to talk about designing women.

Nikki: We could make a transition from my other co host to this.

Nikki: Okay.

Nikki: Because she's my friend.

Nikki: And this episode is designing women, season five, episode 22, friends and husbands.

Salina: Oh, look at you.

Nikki: As that was coming out, there was still that nervousness that I was on the wrong episode.

Salina: Right?

Nikki: No, you said Bill's back, so I felt like I was in the right place.

Salina: Yeah.

Nikki: Anyway, designing women online's description of this episode is planning for she and Charlene to finish writing their children's book.

Nikki: Mary Jo feels left out when Bill finally, but unexpectedly, returns from the Gulf.

Nikki: Meanwhile, Julia fails her driver's license renewal test, and Bernice starts videotaping everyone in attempts to get her video on television.

Nikki: Air date April 20, 1991 we're calling this one, not Bill's back.

Nikki: I'm sorry about that, Selena.

Nikki: We're calling it another Kodak moment down the drain.

Salina: Yes.

Salina: Wonderful.

Nikki: It's written by Cassandra Clark and Debbie Pearl and directed by David Trainor.

Nikki: So, in the world of general reactions, Selena, how did you react to this episode generally?

Salina: Generally, I had questions.

Salina: So, like, why is Julia taking a driving test?

Salina: She's been driving the ho show.

Salina: Well, maybe she has been driving the ho show.

Salina: You know what I'm saying?

Nikki: Didn't we learn that from Bernice's TV show?

Salina: That's right.

Salina: She's driving the ho show.

Salina: Oh, my God.

Salina: That would have been the perfect name, the Ho show.

Salina: Yeah, well, that's a missed opportunity.

Salina: Anyways, she's been driving the whole show, so I don't know.

Salina: I was thrown by that.

Salina: And then is it weird that Consuela is also learning to drive at the same time?

Salina: What's happening?

Salina: Have I missed something?

Nikki: All that.

Nikki: All that?

Nikki: Well, I also watched most of the episode with a question, and then I.

Salina: Thought you were just going to stop there.

Salina: I watched most of the episode.

Nikki: I watched most of the episode.

Nikki: And I'll be back next week with most of that episode.

Nikki: I watched most of it, like, just wondering what in the world was making Mary Jo flout good manners so flagrantly?

Nikki: She just was paying no attention to good manners.

Nikki: None of the signs.

Nikki: Was she picking up on it?

Nikki: I just could not figure out why.

Salina: I have a lot of thoughts on this.

Salina: How do you want to approach this?

Salina: Because I agree.

Salina: But then I saw a cut line.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: Are we okay to go down this road right now?

Salina: I don't want to.

Nikki: Yeah, I don't have any cut lines.

Salina: Okay, tell me more.

Salina: Okay, so I was right there with you.

Salina: Then I thought it got muddier.

Salina: There's a cut line.

Salina: And basically, Charlene is kind of pushing Mary Jo into working on the book over the weekend.

Salina: Instead of spending time with her kids, which is actually what Mary Jo intended.

Nikki: To do, she intended to spend time with her kids, and Charlene pushed her the other way.

Salina: That's right.

Salina: And maybe there was, like, a little something like, but what about me?

Nikki: And.

Salina: So I think Mary Jo felt really guilty and decided to do it anyway.

Salina: So I do think some of that's in the mix.

Salina: Maybe that's why Charlene also weirdly doubles down on the hospitality, which was also, like, a weird choice once Mary Jo is there, like, insisting she stay for a while, and then it's been a said.

Salina: All of that said, push it to the side.

Salina: This is a rule.

Salina: If your friend's partner comes home from a war after months and months, plans are canceled, period.

Salina: Yeah, all the rest of it doesn't matter.

Salina: Even if Charlene was kind of a pushy friend in that moment, which is.

Nikki: Very rare for her anyway.

Nikki: Well, so at the end of the episode, they explain that Mary Jo watched an Oprah episode.

Salina: Oh, that's actually who I've done.

Salina: It's Oprah's fault.

Nikki: It's Oprah's fault.

Nikki: Ultimately, it is.

Nikki: And I'm really glad for that because I was just like, what the heck is charlene thinking?

Nikki: I mean, Mary Jo thinking, like, I don't understand why she keeps doing.

Salina: Yeah.

Nikki: The other thought I had was the best kind of comparator that I have is when I'm still here recording and Casey comes home from work, I cannot imagine an instance where I want to be out of here faster.

Nikki: He's come home from the war zone, the war zone of his job.

Salina: For the times when I'm like, stay, casey, take some pictures of us.

Nikki: Nikki, do you want to spend the night?

Nikki: Like, last time, I was like, selena.

Nikki: No.

Salina: So weird.

Salina: We're too involved.

Nikki: Selena.

Nikki: Last time I was here, we did take some social media pictures.

Nikki: And by we, I mean Casey took pictures of us.

Nikki: And the whole time, I was thinking, this poor man just got out of the war zone.

Nikki: That is his job.

Nikki: He wants to be home.

Nikki: He wants to take his shoes off.

Nikki: And yet here I am.

Salina: No, that's not true, because we also got cookies out of it.

Nikki: Oh, that's true.

Nikki: Yeah.

Nikki: You guys bought Girl scout cookies, and.

Salina: My mother in law really loved the gluten free ones.

Salina: Here's a great place to share that with you.

Nikki: Great.

Nikki: Thank you.

Nikki: I'm very glad to hear it.

Nikki: But the whole episode, that's what I was thinking about.

Salina: Okay.

Salina: And to me, too, I think this sort of, like, kind of nicely comes together with my last general reaction, which is this idea that it's a 22 minutes PSA to communicate better with your friends, talk, put up boundaries, be okay with saying no.

Salina: Be okay with hearing no.

Salina: And I think I'm coming around to something here.

Salina: I promise.

Nikki: I'm with you.

Salina: This is kind of like the grand finale of what has been a rough season for Mary Jo and know.

Nikki: So I was in a rush to get out of your house.

Nikki: Last time I was here, did you just drive behind me and sit at my house and take notes behind me?

Nikki: Because that is.

Nikki: My second general reaction is along those lines, okay.

Salina: I'm following you in the.

Nikki: Car and you're just taking notes behind me.

Nikki: Because what I was thinking about is kind of a chicken and egg scenario.

Nikki: Like, is it that they decided this season was going to be a bit of a rocky season for Charlene and Mary Jo?

Nikki: And then it just worked out that Jean Smart is leaving the show?

Nikki: Or did they make it sort of a rough season?

Nikki: And then smart, like, did she make the decision before it was a rough season to leave, or did she make the decision after it was a rough season?

Nikki: I wonder if they wrote this entire season because we had that blowout argument in working mother, which was way back in episode three.

Nikki: There were dust ups in episode six, the one where Charlene bought a house.

Nikki: Mary Jo was super ugly to Charlene in episode nine, where she went to college.

Nikki: And then by episode eleven, we learned Charlene didn't even seem to know that Claudia was turning 18.

Nikki: Her very best friend in the whole world's daughter is turning 18, and Charlene didn't know.

Salina: It's interesting.

Salina: I think a lot of the in the show, tension boils down to Mary Jo being a single parent and charlene having bill.

Salina: Single parenting this season, for sure.

Salina: Yeah, single parenting is so hard.

Salina: In every said, I've only been on one side of it.

Salina: Obviously, I've been the kid, but I saw how my mom struggled.

Salina: It is different than going into a two parent household.

Salina: I promise you, it is different on every single level.

Salina: And so I think there's something about that that naturally lends itself to an easy tension, because it's not just that.

Salina: It's differences in money, time, support.

Salina: It kind of almost took like, Charlene and Mary Jo were on an equal playing field, and then she got with Bill, which also took her into a different financial stratosphere.

Salina: I feel like that was a weird way to put it.

Salina: But you know what?

Salina: And it put such a severe dividing line between them, even though in some ways you're like, what are you talking about?

Salina: You both have kids, but their kids are very differently aged.

Salina: We are working at the same place.

Salina: And that probably is maybe that last thing that they really have in common these days.

Salina: And then a thought that I had as we were talking is this.

Salina: Everyone has that friend that always has someone.

Salina: I swear to God, every friend group has this.

Nikki: Yes.

Salina: They're always in a relationship.

Salina: When they're single, they need you, need you, need you, right.

Salina: And when they're back in a relationship.

Nikki: Drop you like a bad.

Salina: Like, absolutely.

Salina: Every single time.

Salina: Love them anyway.

Salina: No names assigned, but it's a real thing, and I feel a little of that here, that kind of tension at play.

Nikki: I don't know how I missed those cut lines, except maybe I wasn't looking at cut lines for this episode.

Nikki: That's really interesting that Charlene was being a little bit pushy with things, because there have been a few times, like that episode where Mary Jo.

Nikki: This was just a couple episodes ago, Mary Jo wanted to have a baby, and it was kind of Mary Jo pushing herself on Charlene.

Nikki: Charlene was like, don't you want to be home?

Nikki: Like, don't you want to not be with us for a weekend?

Nikki: And Mary Jo was like, no, I love being around Olivia.

Nikki: So I think I've spent a lot of the season thinking it's Mary Jo inserting herself in Charlene's life, but maybe the cut lines would have changed my mind.

Salina: Yeah, I probably should have written them down, but I was like, nikki will have them.

Nikki: Sorry.

Nikki: See how that works out well for me.

Salina: Until someone points out how anyway.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: So.

Salina: I don't know.

Salina: It's complicated.

Salina: It's complicated.

Nikki: And it just got all of that said.

Nikki: It just had me generally thinking about the unanswerable, which is chicken or egg.

Nikki: Their friendship started falling apart as a neat way, like a clean way to write Gene smart off the show.

Nikki: Or was it just natural?

Nikki: It could have just been natural.

Nikki: I mean, all the things that you've just described, even some of the things that I described happening throughout the season were natural.

Nikki: We've just never seen this tension before between the two of them.

Salina: Right.

Nikki: And so it just felt something that this was also a natural breaking point for Jean Smart with the show.

Salina: Well, Cassandra, Debbie, come on the show.

Nikki: Tell anytime you want.

Salina: Tell us what you know, what you remember from 1991.

Salina: I dare you to ask us what we had for lunch yesterday or breakfast this morning.

Nikki: I don't know.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: So, strays, Julia mentions a bunch of reasons that Consuela shouldn't learn to drive.

Salina: Consuela wants to learn how to drive.

Salina: You can't be serious.

Salina: We're talking about a woman who howls at the moon, makes necklaces out of chicken heads, and throws butcher knives at the good humor man.

Salina: I just want to point out for the record that none of those are reasons that she can't drive.

Nikki: Well, the throwing butcher knives at someone kind of signals mental instability.

Salina: What did the good humor man do?

Nikki: I guess that's true.

Salina: What if he was throwing knives first?

Salina: We don't know the.

Nikki: We don't know.

Nikki: That's true.

Salina: It was just like, a really weird street.

Salina: Like, I know they're just trying to be funny.

Salina: It's like all these things, and I'm like, okay, well, that means she can't drive a car, right?

Nikki: No near sightedness, no double vision.

Salina: More like realistic.

Salina: Be like, she doesn't even drive on anybody's a** on the road.

Salina: She doesn't honk very loudly at people.

Salina: She doesn't try and drive up on the curb all the.

Nikki: Never even been 95 miles an hour going around.

Nikki: V 285.

Salina: V 280, exactly.

Nikki: You can't convince me Bernice doesn't know what the middle finger means.

Salina: No, but I will go with it.

Salina: I kind of love it.

Nikki: I feel like she's probably even given it a yes.

Nikki: I feel like she's definitely done it.

Salina: Charlene's.

Salina: Let's call it a why.

Salina: Why did she choose a child's.

Salina: First of all, she didn't choose anything, but why did someone choose for her a child's nightgown from the pioneer days that was wrapped with, like, an actual bow.

Nikki: It did look very american girl doll like, not sized for an.

Salina: I mean, hasn't bill been through enough?

Salina: The man just got back from war.

Salina: And then why was Charlie.

Salina: Except for the fact that that outfit looks stupid.

Salina: Why was she embarrassed for Mary Jo to see her?

Salina: She was.

Salina: She had a turtleneck on.

Nikki: It's what she was saying as she came down the stairs.

Salina: I think that embarrassed.

Nikki: It embarrassed me a little bit.

Nikki: I was watching the show through my open fingers.

Salina: Please, I don't want to see these two make love.

Salina: And I know they're going to call it that uncomfortable.

Nikki: My second stray.

Nikki: And I'm hoping this doesn't mess up any transitions you have.

Salina: No, I'm out of strays.

Nikki: Okay.

Nikki: My second stray was, if you came home from nine months in the desert, what food would you be most looking forward to?

Nikki: So Bill said he was too full to have cake because he'd had steak, pork chops and ravioli all in the same meal.

Nikki: And I was just curious if there was anything.

Nikki: If you went away and came back.

Nikki: I thought of publix.

Nikki: Birthday cake gives me such a bad stomachache.

Nikki: It makes me feel so sick.

Nikki: But if I've been away for nine months to a year, that's what I want.

Salina: I've got great news for you.

Salina: I have a public sheet cake just sitting downstairs for you.

Nikki: I also would want good barbecue, I think.

Salina: Well, I do feel like I have a little bit of what I would call a small fraction.

Salina: And then I almost regret that I've used this as an example.

Salina: I'm going to sound like a total b*******, but sometimes when you've been out in another country, when you've gone on.

Nikki: One of your epic vacations.

Nikki: Yeah.

Salina: When you've been out of the country for a while, it doesn't matter what the purpose is.

Salina: Maybe it's vacation war.

Salina: Anyways, I'm just saying, when you're home, you don't realize how blessed you are to have such a wide variety of food.

Salina: We are so spoiled.

Salina: And then if you're in some places, that variety just isn't there.

Salina: Doesn't mean the food's not delicious.

Salina: It just means you can only have so much stew or clam chowder or whatever.

Salina: Brown bread, whatever.

Salina: You just come home and you're like.

Nikki: Steak and crab leg.

Salina: Did that sound happy?

Salina: I'm like cabbage.

Salina: Anyway, you just need variety.

Salina: It's the spice of life.

Salina: So I'm guessing when I come home, no matter where I've been and not for whatever reason, we have a pretty high asian population.

Salina: When I get home, I'm going to want some kind of interesting.

Nikki: Really?

Salina: Yeah, I want.

Salina: Because let me tell you something that is not worldwide.

Salina: Nobody knows our pit bull conversation leading into this, but I was trying to.

Nikki: Work in Mr.

Nikki: Worldwide.

Nikki: Mr.

Nikki: Worldwide only stays in Miami.

Salina: Yeah, but you can't just go anywhere and have some bang up asian food.

Salina: You can't.

Salina: I tried.

Salina: Yeah, I tried.

Salina: I've had Chinese in Rome.

Salina: I've had Chinese in Ireland.

Salina: Where else have I tried it?

Salina: And it's really different.

Salina: Yeah, and it's really different.

Salina: And I'm not just talking about takeout, like run of the mill Chinese.

Salina: It's just all really different because it's like almost a different interpretation of what we're used to getting here.

Salina: I don't know.

Nikki: It's not the American Chinese.

Salina: What are we here for?

Nikki: That was my question.

Nikki: It's funny, you go, like, asian, and I come home and I'm like, I can have some barbecue, maybe a hamburger and publix birthday cake, and I'll be set.

Nikki: I'll be good.

Nikki: I just want the full american, southern american experience.

Salina: That's right.

Salina: Well, see, this is why you need to go visit my friends in Ireland who own a hot chicken Nashville place.

Salina: Then you get Americana over there.

Salina: That's right.

Nikki: That's true.

Salina: That is a plug for Firebird unpaid, y'all.

Salina: It's in Dublin.

Salina: They have two locations now.

Salina: Renilla.

Salina: I'm sorry, Ashley.

Salina: I don't remember the name of Dunleary.

Salina: She did it.

Salina: Do you know how hard it is to remember how to say those names?

Nikki: I thought you were going to stop it.

Nikki: To remember.

Salina: I'm like.

Salina: Anyways, my pronunciation is not great if you've been listening for more than four minutes, you know that.

Salina: All right, I'll stop there.

Salina: That was nice.

Salina: And stray.

Nikki: That was very stray.

Nikki: Sorry about that.

Salina: No, I loved it.

Salina: Do you have other strays?

Salina: Well, it's time for a Suzanne watch.

Salina: I don't know.

Salina: I just did that right then, so.

Nikki: I don't think I won't make her music.

Nikki: And so now she's making her own.

Salina: Suzanne watch.

Nikki: There you go.

Nikki: Okay, now we did it twice.

Nikki: I hope you can remember that next time.

Salina: There is no Suzanne watch.

Salina: She's not in this episode at all.

Nikki: They gave her the old counciuela, only that's what I call it.

Salina: I know why that sounds sexual, but anyways, only got two more episodes to go.

Salina: No Suzanne in this one.

Salina: I'm glad you mentioned Consuela because it's interesting that now both of them are the two characters we can't see, but we get mentions.

Nikki: And they gave her no alibi, either.

Salina: No.

Salina: And usually they do, right?

Nikki: Usually there's some random, like, trip to the Bahamas or.

Salina: I don't think they cared, because I look back at the timeline.

Salina: March 20, eigth, a month before this one aired, is when the cast and crew separately met and voted Delta Alpha show perfect.

Salina: That's maybe somehow at play again.

Salina: I'm just making this stuff up every time.

Nikki: Sorry.

Salina: All just the way it is.

Salina: I think Suzanne could have been a fun reality check, though, just for the record, for Mary Jo, after she keeps interrupting Charlene and Bill's big bow unwrapping time.

Nikki: Pioneer dress.

Nikki: Big bow unwrapping.

Salina: Here's the thing, though.

Salina: I've got great news.

Salina: I'll tell you who did or what did make an appearance in this episode.

Salina: Peach cobbler.

Nikki: Oh, indeed.

Salina: Nikki, can we nibbles?

Salina: Yes.

Salina: Don't worry.

Salina: I'll vamp.

Salina: I got it.

Salina: I got it.

Salina: Selena's nibbles.

Salina: Come on, y'all.

Salina: Let's talk fiddles.

Nikki: Selena's nibbles.

Nikki: Come on, y'all, let's eat.

Nikki: That's a tough listen.

Nikki: That's real tough.

Nikki: But I'll have you know my name's in there.

Salina: What?

Nikki: You saw me over here poking around?

Nikki: If you saw me over here poking around a few minutes ago, that was me double checking that I had the music somewhere handy so that you didn't have to ban for too long.

Salina: Yeah.

Nikki: I don't want to put too much pressure on you.

Salina: It ever make you sad when you hear other people with podcasts and they have got their producer and then their producer is like, line assistant, and then their producers, like, friend in the background and then someone.

Salina: It's just a two lady operation here.

Nikki: It'll never become more obvious than it will in this week's extra sugar, where I am stretching myself technologically to try to do something interesting.

Nikki: So it may or may not be obvious.

Nikki: It may get cut from the final episode because I screw it up so badly.

Nikki: But, yeah, I really kept thinking, man, if I just could go like this point at my producer and.

Salina: You got this, Tim.

Nikki: Exactly.

Nikki: That would be nice.

Nikki: Kyle.

Nikki: Kyle.

Nikki: We need to train one of my kids.

Nikki: Yeah, they're very trainable.

Salina: That's right.

Nikki: Anywho, that's not what you hear talk about.

Salina: Well, someone would have to watch their mouth, Nikki.

Salina: So here's the thing.

Salina: I can't just blow by a peach cobbler reference.

Nikki: It really was looking like you were not going to be able to do that.

Nikki: As we were planning this episode out, I was feeling like you had something.

Salina: Well, because the thing is, it's the most quintessentially southern food reference we've had all season.

Salina: If we were to say, forget about the New Orleans episode entirely, just push that out of your mind.

Nikki: Sure.

Salina: For the record, Cobbler has been around since colonial times, and it was born out of necessity because apparently English and dutch settlers could not find the right ingredients here to make their traditional recipes.

Salina: And you know what I have to say to that?

Salina: Fine by me.

Nikki: Oh, I thought you were going to say pish posh.

Nikki: Should have seen that coming.

Nikki: Pish posh.

Nikki: I should have seen that coming.

Salina: Really?

Salina: Fun fact, apparently cobbler was not isolated to the dessert menu until the late 19th century.

Salina: Did you know, Nikki Maze, that you could have it?

Salina: Breakfast, lunch, dinner.

Salina: It was a dietary staple.

Salina: Cobbler.

Salina: Good for everything.

Salina: Not good.

Nikki: It's a fruit.

Nikki: Fruit.

Salina: The cob or the lure?

Nikki: Both.

Nikki: I was going to say quickie, but then people might not get the blood.

Nikki: It's like a quiche.

Salina: It's like a quiche.

Salina: Like a quiche, but with fruit.

Salina: This group ought to get the quickie.

Nikki: I would hope so.

Salina: I would hope so.

Salina: But here's my thought, like, yeah, they didn't have indoor plumbing, but cobbler three times a day.

Salina: Not the worst.

Salina: Maybe not the best together.

Salina: We'll link to a tasting table article from our blog post where you can learn more about its origin because we got to get into this dessert thing here.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: Cobbler and peach cobbler specifically is one of the more popular southern desserts, especially here in our home state of Georgia.

Salina: So southern living tells us, in case you're curious, the other most popular southern desserts are bunt cake, hummingbird cake, pound cake, Nikki's favorite, red velvet, then regionally, key lime pie in Florida.

Nikki: Sure.

Salina: Derby pie in Kentucky.

Nikki: Sure.

Salina: You got any guesses about what the top flavor is in the south?

Nikki: Pecan pie or is it going to be apple pie.

Salina: Think more flavor.

Salina: Not necessarily a dessert.

Nikki: Oh, gosh.

Nikki: Flavor.

Nikki: Flavor.

Nikki: Think more flavor.

Nikki: Think more flavor.

Nikki: I don't know.

Salina: I'll tell you this, peach, it is one of the apples three flavors in Neapolitan strawberry.

Salina: There you go.

Salina: There we go.

Nikki: I knew the whole time.

Salina: Nailed it.

Salina: You were just trying to make good audio, right?

Nikki: That's what it was.

Salina: But we're not here to talk about what's popular, nay.

Nikki: What are we here to talk about?

Salina: What are we doing?

Salina: We're here to talk about lesser known southern desserts.

Salina: Let me go ahead and say if you know the dessert that I say, then you can consider this segment, Selena's lesser known southern dessert.

Nikki: And you can consider yourself so smart.

Nikki: So smart, so wonderful and worldwide so much better than us.

Salina: We're just trying to get by, y'all.

Salina: So I was thinking I'm going to go through five that I pulled and you can tell me, like, do you know them?

Salina: Do you not know it?

Salina: Would you try it?

Salina: Would you not try it?

Salina: One of them is in the fridge right now.

Salina: So that's fun.

Nikki: I like smash or pass.

Nikki: And you don't really know which one it is.

Nikki: No.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: You might be setting yourself up here.

Salina: Okay.

Salina: Here are the five that caught my eye.

Salina: The first one is southern peanut pie.

Salina: This is known as the poor man's pecan pie according to twelve tomatoes.

Salina: And we'll link to the recipe.

Salina: Aside from the obvious use of peanuts, the other two major differences that stood out to me were like dark instead of light corn syrup.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: And then chilling the pie versus just cooling the pie because otherwise they said the consistency will be more like a peanut cobbler.

Salina: I mean, I tried those.

Nikki: Smash.

Salina: Right.

Salina: So this was southerners making good use of their peanut crop.

Salina: So it was initially known in Virginia and the Carolinas, I would have figured here.

Salina: And it was more well known by the 1940s due to broader marketing and whatnot.

Salina: I imagine it also had a little something to do with little thing we call the depression.

Salina: So maybe no one had pecan money at the time.

Nikki: Right.

Salina: But flashing forward to today, pecans are really expensive right now.

Nikki: They are.

Nikki: Nuts in general are expensive.

Salina: So bad right now.

Salina: Everything dark corn syrup also, to me, sounds like it would make for a delicious filling.

Salina: They described it as like kind of carameli.

Nikki: That's what it sounds like to me.

Nikki: It sounds praline ish.

Nikki: Like peanut praline, though.

Nikki: That's what I'm hearing.

Nikki: And imagining I would smash.

Nikki: I would smash.

Salina: It's good.

Salina: Thank you.

Salina: Thank you, Nikki.

Salina: You're welcome.

Salina: Also sounds a little sexual.

Salina: Number two, the millionaire pie.

Salina: Do you know this one?

Salina: I forgot to ask you.

Salina: Obviously you did not know what the peanut pie was.

Nikki: I'm going to guess I could have guessed what it was.

Nikki: Pie with peanuts, just like.

Salina: Well, not if you can figure it out or not.

Nikki: Millionaire pie.

Nikki: Does it have coconut in it?

Nikki: It does, yeah.

Salina: Okay, so sounds familiar.

Nikki: Coconut and chocolate.

Salina: Apparently you could put chocolate on it if you wanted to, is like a topper.

Salina: Okay.

Salina: So I selected this one because I'm not overly familiar with it, but it's also a perfect example of the south love for a no bake recipe.

Nikki: I do love a no bake.

Salina: Comes together in ten minutes unless smash.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: Oh, sorry.

Salina: Comes together in ten minutes plus an hour in the fridge.

Salina: Southern living.

Salina: Southern living describes it as pineapple bits and chewy sweet coconut suspended throughout.

Salina: This creamy pie, along with crunchy pecans gelatin sets the pie so that it is easily slicable and maintains its shape.

Salina: So I've seen some recipes, including southern livings, that added marishino cherries.

Salina: I would eat it because there ain't no pie I wouldn't try, which is my slogan.

Nikki: So that's perfect.

Nikki: You needed that on a shirt.

Nikki: I would call this a smash.

Nikki: It's like right in the middle of smash and pass.

Nikki: Like, I'm going to give it a go, but I'm probably not going to love it.

Nikki: The pineapple freaked me out a little bit because I'm imagining chunks.

Salina: It's not what kind of pineapple?

Salina: Okay, how do you know that I use them?

Salina: I'm already, like, defensive of the pie.

Salina: Or you just got me with a really smart question.

Salina: If I were you, I would say that you just got me with a really smart question.

Salina: Nikki.

Salina: Today we're having millionaire pie.

Salina: I will tell you that the filling did not excite me at all.

Salina: I left out the maraschino cherries because I think that's disgusting.

Salina: With all due respect to maraschino cherry lovers, I don't want that.

Salina: Now, I did put some on top to be pretty.

Nikki: Yeah.

Salina: We can also go.

Nikki: I can live with that.

Nikki: I can do that.

Salina: I tried so hard not to tell you.

Nikki: It's in this mass category.

Nikki: I'm going to give it a go because there ain't no pie I won't try.

Salina: I tried the filling, and I will tell you, for someone that was like, there's something about when you bring coconut and pineapples together, start thinking about suntan lotion.

Nikki: Anyways, it makes me think of a fruit mold or a fruit gelatin.

Nikki: You know, like the fruit gelatin, which is just.

Salina: Never mind.

Nikki: Just always was at family events, and the cherries were in there.

Nikki: Yeah.

Salina: So never my favorite, but when I tasted the filling, just to make sure it didn't taste like crap or I hadn't done something wrong, I was like, oh, no.

Nikki: I could probably like this good.

Salina: It's made with sweet condensed mean.

Nikki: I'm gonna give a shot, Selena.

Salina: I'm probably gonna eat the whole thing.

Nikki: Whether I like it or not.

Salina: Oh, no.

Salina: My point being, like, if there's sweet condensed milk in it, there's gonna be some part of me that likes it.

Nikki: Oh, okay.

Salina: Because it's just like fatty, fatty goodness, which is also right up there with no goodness.

Salina: Number three is Bill Smith's atlantic beach pie.

Salina: Know it, don't know it.

Nikki: No.

Salina: Okay, so I wasn't familiar with this.

Salina: The poor man's key lime pie.

Nikki: That would have been my guess.

Salina: Well, okay.

Salina: But it's not wrong.

Salina: Although, I don't know.

Salina: I would say poor man's, but I wasn't familiar with this one until I was researching what to make for pie day last year.

Salina: Bitty hoozy.

Salina: It is supposed to be like lemon pie meets key lime pie with a salting cracker crust, which I'm super interested in.

Salina: I will tell you for the record, this one is actually also in my fridge right now, but it's for my grandparents birthday.

Nikki: Okay, cool.

Nikki: I hope they enjoy it.

Salina: So, I got a sad story for you, which probably shouldn't take so much time to tell here, but just real quickly, I had enough leftover, and I was making mini pies yesterday, and I was going to share some with you, a couple of my friends, and Casey when he got home, from work.

Salina: It made six of them.

Salina: When I went to put it in the oven last night, I dropped the whole thing on the oven door.

Salina: And so that's what you cry.

Salina: I wanted to.

Salina: Lately, only dust comes out.

Salina: I will tell you that at least 50 times as I was, like, cleaning everything up because it took.

Salina: My brain went to that off a hot oven door.

Salina: It's like all that was happening.

Salina: And then later on throughout the night, I was like, what the h*** happened?

Salina: Where does it all go?

Nikki: You wish you had that rewind button so you can see.

Nikki: Where did your foot slip?

Nikki: What happened?

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: But you know what?

Salina: I did make up for it, because honestly, this pie is easy.

Salina: Except for all the cooling for an hour and then the chilling for three, that starts to get, like, a lot.

Salina: So I think that I was like.

Nikki: You'Re kind of glad it's over?

Nikki: Yeah.

Salina: I had to clean up this pie, but I didn't have to put four more hours into watching this pie.

Salina: I get that.

Salina: So anyways, you almost got some.

Nikki: Okay.

Nikki: Well, your grandparents can let me know how it is.

Salina: Sorry about that.

Salina: Well, you have a birthday this year, I hear real quick on this one.

Salina: Its namesake comes from Bill Smith, who is the longtime chef of Crook's corner, great name, in Chapel Hill, North Carolina.

Salina: That's a restaurant.

Salina: And was inspired by the lemon pies he had.

Salina: Did I need to tell you that?

Salina: A longtime chef that the name of.

Salina: That was the name of a restaurant?

Salina: Did I need to tell you that?

Salina: Just going to step back.

Salina: Anyways, it was, like, restaurants he went to as a kid.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: They're, like, in North Carolina.

Salina: And that inspired him to make this more official, I guess, and give it.

Nikki: A name anyways, after himself.

Salina: I'm very interested in the Saltine cracker crust.

Nikki: That sounds interesting.

Salina: Yeah.

Nikki: So did you make it with saltine crackers?

Salina: Yeah.

Nikki: Oh, okay.

Nikki: So you'll let us know?

Salina: I can let you know for sure.

Salina: I don't know.

Salina: You'll have to remind me to come back here.

Nikki: Well, sure.

Salina: And let everyone know.

Nikki: I mean, maybe we'll see how that goes.

Nikki: Yeah.

Salina: Number four is the Charlote ruse cake.

Salina: No, not the trendy retail chain of our youth.

Nikki: It's, like, just a bunch of polyester.

Salina: It's all like, everything's $30 and.

Salina: No, in this case, I'm referring to the 300 year old recipe, most likely French in origin.

Salina: It comes in and out of favor and flavor over the decades.

Salina: Are you familiar with this?

Salina: No, this was new news to me.

Salina: They come in, like a bunch of different varieties, and traditional recipes are more time consuming.

Salina: I'll tell you after my next therapy session about the gelatin process.

Salina: But today's recipes are friendlier to both the maker and animal carcasses.

Salina: So here's how southern living describes their take on the cake.

Nikki: Hopefully better than that.

Salina: Yes.

Nikki: Animal carcasses.

Salina: Yeah, I'm telling.

Salina: What's that taken, like, a year to make these?

Salina: Anyways, it doesn't matter.

Salina: So their take is lady fingers soaked in a lemon thyme syrup in fresh blackberries and whipped cream crown.

Salina: And whipped cream crown.

Salina: The set lemon custard for an ending that will give you rays.

Salina: You'll never even have to turn on your oven.

Nikki: Oh, my gosh.

Salina: It sounded good, but, like, beyond my capability.

Salina: Skill set, yes.

Nikki: And time allotment.

Salina: Yes.

Nikki: I think this one, you got to soak them.

Nikki: Then there's some lemon curd you got to create.

Salina: Right.

Nikki: And then there's something on top.

Salina: Right.

Salina: Number five also falls into this category.

Salina: For the record, these are jam cakes.

Salina: Do you know about jam cakes?

Nikki: No.

Salina: Okay, so did I get to five?

Salina: And I've come up with five good, lesser known desserts.

Nikki: Well, for me, I don't know.

Nikki: I'm ignorant.

Salina: Well, it only matters about me and you.

Salina: Okay, someone, obviously we're selfish.

Salina: We have a podcast where we talk out loud for several hours.

Nikki: Okay.

Nikki: Indeed.

Salina: Anyways, in addition to being lesser known.

Salina: Well, to this table right here, this one sounds delicious and apparently has Appalachia roots.

Salina: So basically, bakers couldn't get store bought sugar at the time, and they used jam instead of sugar.

Salina: And southern living says that that actually makes the cake richer, denser, and more flavorful than sugar alone.

Salina: This is really the cake I wanted to make.

Salina: Unfortunately, there was about 55 ingredients.

Nikki: Oh, no.

Salina: And definitely above my skill level.

Nikki: Why so many?

Salina: I don't know.

Nikki: Were you making the jam?

Salina: Maybe that's what was happening.

Salina: But I looked at, oh, crap.

Salina: Then maybe I could have made it.

Salina: I may have not put that together.

Salina: This is why I laugh when people will make comments or say stuff about a recipe I've made.

Salina: I'm like, guys, I can barely make macaroni and cheese.

Salina: That's what you need to know.

Nikki: It's not true, but it's not.

Nikki: When I see something with a lot of steps, I first check to see if there are any shortcuts so that I can make it faster.

Salina: I've been doing that a lot, depending.

Nikki: On how much I really want to make it right.

Nikki: If I don't really want to make it then that's just a reason not to make it.

Nikki: But if I really want to, I'll.

Salina: Look for a.

Salina: Yeah, yeah, I probably should have done that.

Salina: Something next time.

Salina: Dang it.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: For whatever reason.

Salina: Because I was just going to buy Jam.

Salina: Because Casey actually said you're going to make jam.

Salina: I said, make jam.

Nikki: It's really fun.

Salina: Who do you think I am?

Salina: Nikki?

Nikki: I like making.

Salina: I know you.

Salina: Really?

Salina: Nikki likes to find all of the shortcuts except for the long cuts that.

Nikki: She takes on the things I really.

Salina: Want to make her talent and know how.

Salina: And I was like, no, I was just going to buy a really expensive bottle or jar of jam.

Salina: Obviously someone took a lot of time with that.

Nikki: Sure.

Salina: I've got two honorable mentions.

Salina: They're both sheetcakes, the Dr.

Salina: Pepper Texas sheet cake.

Salina: And I just thought that one was nice because sheet cake is actually like, well, Texas claims it, and I don't know why, but they claim it, so it's theirs.

Salina: And then also, Dr.

Salina: Pepper is a Texas soda, so that's like a top to bottom kind of lone star state thing.

Salina: And then strawberries and cream.

Salina: Sheet cake also came up in my research, and that just sounds so delicious and springy.

Salina: And apparently I have to love it because it's strawberry and I'm southern.

Nikki: I used to really love cake made with, like, in calorie counting days, diet Coke.

Nikki: But like a coke cake, it tastes really good, like chocolate and coke.

Salina: I had no idea that you could make it with Diet Coke.

Salina: I am familiar with a coke cake.

Nikki: Yeah, so good.

Nikki: Yeah, so good.

Nikki: And then, yes.

Nikki: Strawberries and cream.

Nikki: This is good.

Nikki: And it's almost strawberry season, if it's not already very close.

Salina: Very close.

Salina: Because I just looked it up for my mom not too long ago.

Nikki: Is she making us a sheet cake?

Salina: I think her and I are going to go strawberry picking for mother's Day this year.

Nikki: Oh, that's fun.

Nikki: Yeah.

Salina: So love your mom's, y'all.

Salina: So, Nikki, I know we both like dessert.

Salina: What is it that you liked about this episode?

Nikki: That was a good transition.

Nikki: All of the transitions into what we liked is just like that.

Nikki: Anthony's retelling.

Nikki: I have two lines.

Nikki: I really liked Anthony's retelling of Consuela signaling in the car.

Nikki: Consuela is the worst driver I've ever seen.

Nikki: This woman is a lunatic.

Nikki: After I explained to her the importance of using the correct turn signal, she signals right, then turns left real quick, yelling.

Salina: Ha.

Nikki: I fooled them.

Nikki: I thought that was hilarious.

Nikki: Also, my first, like, perfect example of sometimes why it's so much funnier Consuela's not there.

Nikki: Right.

Nikki: Because we get Anthony being her, and it's just funnier that way, I think.

Salina: Yeah, I agree.

Nikki: I also really liked when Julia retold about Consuela taking the driver's test.

Nikki: I think the part that made me laugh so hard.

Nikki: Oh.

Nikki: It was right at the end where she said she went on to take the driving test, but unfortunately, she ran into a little snag at the drive through window.

Nikki: Our DMV doesn't have a drive through window.

Nikki: They do now.

Nikki: Consuela rammed Suzanne's brand new Cadillac right through their plate glass window.

Nikki: I thought that was pretty funny.

Salina: Yeah, it was good timing, good delivery.

Salina: When Charlene came out of the storeroom and found bill there and dropped the books, it was just really good scene from.

Nikki: Yeah, yeah, she was so.

Salina: It was just.

Salina: It was really nice.

Salina: I only want to see Jane smart, happy.

Nikki: She was so.

Salina: And I think it's hard to not imagine what you would be like in that know.

Salina: And we did get to see her go through a fair amount of angst this season.

Nikki: Yeah.

Salina: Any other likes?

Salina: Just got one more.

Salina: Just Bernice just being her glorious self in general.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: Whether it's calling herself deranged accidentally, to your point earlier, not understanding the middle finger.

Salina: She gets them all the time.

Salina: Calling it Operation Panty Shield instead of desert Shield.

Salina: Great.

Salina: And then thinking she just sends the whole camera into America's funniest home videos, which would have, like.

Salina: I think you could almost see somebody doing that.

Salina: But she also didn't put in a tape or ever press record.

Nikki: She never did anything.

Nikki: She just held it up.

Salina: I just love her.

Salina: I love her so much.

Nikki: She's very funny.

Salina: What about things that you didn't like?

Nikki: I think you touched on this earlier.

Nikki: Just not having any Suzanne in this episode.

Nikki: This one had me thinking a lot about the citizenship episode from season four.

Nikki: And it was teed up in a very similar way, like they're dealing with some random bureaucratic process.

Nikki: And in that episode, we got Suzanne getting into mischief along the way.

Nikki: And it was just.

Nikki: I thought that this episode had potential for something similar to that, and they just instead yanked Suzanne out of the episode altogether.

Nikki: And I think it was just.

Nikki: Maybe I understand why, but I think it was a missed opportunity.

Salina: Right.

Nikki: That was the only thing I disliked in this episode.

Salina: Real quick.

Salina: So we don't know why Julia is taking a driving test?

Nikki: Not that I know of.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: Because we never really answered it.

Salina: And I was like, waiting for you to be like Selena.

Salina: How did you miss this cut line?

Nikki: No, I don't think so.

Salina: Okay, so just ridiculous, you know, takes driving tests.

Nikki: I have to admit.

Salina: I feel like.

Nikki: I assumed that maybe in the 90s things are different and that you were due to retake your driver's exam every ten years or something.

Nikki: Okay.

Nikki: Or maybe she seems like we'd be.

Salina: Stricter now than back then.

Nikki: Maybe that episode where she ran through the p**** stand, maybe she had her license taken away.

Nikki: Maybe she had to get it again.

Salina: That's true.

Nikki: Yeah.

Nikki: I don't think we know.

Salina: I love that.

Salina: It was just a p**** stand now, just dotting the Atlanta skyline.

Salina: Just one p**** stand after the next.

Salina: You know what I'm saying?

Salina: It does kind of feel like Cheshire.

Nikki: Bridge a little bit.

Nikki: Yeah, we got a few roads like that.

Salina: Yeah.

Nikki: But, yeah, the news.

Salina: Sometimes you need to stop in for your vapes and your glory holes and just everything all in one.

Salina: Oh, I'm sorry.

Salina: I thought the glory hole was how you got your vape.

Salina: No, I'm sorry.

Salina: Get so confused.

Salina: You want to rate this sucker?

Nikki: Sure.

Nikki: My rating scale was trickster turn signals.

Salina: Wonderful.

Nikki: I gave it a four out of five like you said.

Nikki: We got a really good run with Bernice.

Nikki: We got some really funny imagery around Consuela learning to a.

Nikki: You know what's really funny is all my favorite parts of the episode were about have.

Nikki: That part about Mary Jo and Charlene, I guess, really didn't resonate with me at all.

Nikki: I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it.

Salina: You don't resonate with two friends collaborating around a project?

Salina: I can't say I do.

Salina: Nope.

Salina: I can't revisit that pain.

Salina: Right.

Nikki: But, yeah.

Nikki: Four out of five.

Nikki: What about you?

Salina: I gave it four and a half out of five.

Salina: Horrifying negligees.

Salina: I wouldn't say this was among my favorite episodes this season, but there wasn't anything I strictly disliked about it, so that's where I landed.

Salina: I thought Bill's return was nice.

Salina: I'm glad that we wrapped that up before the end of the season.

Nikki: We could stop talking about it.

Salina: It also helps that it was, like, kind of what was going on in real life, so I guess they needed to bring the boys home.

Salina: I remember on first watch also, because I know I'd seen this one before, but I don't remember.

Salina: So just generally and genuinely being interested in just seeing how those two patch this up, like, where that landed, since they just couldn't get it together.

Salina: I guess we'll never hear about this kids book again.

Salina: So there is that.

Nikki: Probably not, no.

Nikki: Did they finish it?

Nikki: I don't know.

Salina: We don't know.

Salina: What about Billy Bunny boy or whatever it was.

Nikki: 90 things.

Nikki: We had a reference to peewee Herman and his Schwinn.

Nikki: That's when Mary Jo was asking Charlene what kind of bike to give Billy Bunny.

Salina: Right.

Nikki: Bernice's camcorder.

Nikki: And, like, the whole America's funniest home videos thing, which we'll come back to later this week in extra sugar.

Nikki: And there were both Angela Lansbury and.

Nikki: Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful.

Salina: My only one.

Salina: Wait, did you say the Kodak moment?

Nikki: No, I didn't.

Salina: That felt nice.

Nikki: Thanks for listening.

Salina: Honey.

Salina: You could have said it.

Salina: And I listened and already forgot.

Salina: That's how the brains working these days.

Nikki: Wait, have we talked about this episode yet?

Salina: Your timing was excellent.

Salina: So that was one that hit for me.

Salina: And then petty cash gets mentioned.

Salina: I don't know if petty cash exists anymore.

Salina: I don't know.

Nikki: I haven't thought about it since.

Nikki: Don't tell mom.

Salina: The babysitter in my parentheses, it's in my parentheticals.

Nikki: Heidi cash.

Salina: So good.

Salina: Maybe that's why it doesn't exist anymore.

Nikki: Right.

Salina: Someone was always stealing it.

Nikki: It was just, like, there for the taking.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: Thought this was for me.

Nikki: A 17 year old.

Salina: That's right.

Salina: I go watch.

Salina: Now that's a movie you and I can get together on.

Salina: Yeah.

Salina: I don't know.

Salina: Our movie watching always aligns.

Salina: But that is.

Nikki: You don't have great classic.

Salina: I know southern things.

Nikki: I don't have anything written down, but I'm going to say peach cobbler.

Salina: Yes.

Salina: The old cobs.

Salina: The only other thing I have is just the larger theme of this one, which is like, beating around the bush to be nice but screwing yourself.

Salina: Know, just like, that's southern.

Salina: I know.

Salina: I love it.

Salina: References we need to talk about.

Nikki: So you mentioned Operation Panty Shield, which was really supposed to be Operation Desert Shield.

Nikki: Forrest Sawyer, he's an ABC News journalist.

Nikki: He filed history's first live news broadcast from the battlefield.

Nikki: And right now, in this moment, I'm wishing I'd written down where they mentioned that in the episode.

Nikki: But believe me, they mentioned.

Salina: Charlene.

Salina: I had to look this up.

Salina: The other day, Charlene is talking about how smart Olivia is or something and says, I swear she just said Forrest Sawyer.

Nikki: Yeah.

Nikki: Okay.

Nikki: There you go.

Nikki: That sounds.

Nikki: Sure.

Nikki: General Schwartz.

Nikki: Cop.

Salina: This is where Charlene told Bill.

Salina: She did, though.

Salina: She asked, did you meet him.

Nikki: So he led all coalition forces through the Gulf war.

Nikki: I ended up down a rabbit hole in this dude.

Nikki: He seems really interesting.

Nikki: Yeah, his name drew me in and I just needed to know more about his background.

Salina: I'm just so glad you're the one delivering these this time.

Salina: Go on.

Nikki: Jonathan Winters is the last one.

Nikki: He was a comedian who was a regular on Heeha in the mid 80s.

Nikki: Can you tell everybody where they said that name?

Salina: I can maybe.

Salina: Oh, does he really look like Jonathan Winters when she's asking about General Schwartz?

Nikki: Cop?

Salina: Yep.

Nikki: There you go.

Nikki: That's why they're right next to each other.

Nikki: Right.

Nikki: That.

Nikki: I guess that could have been a southern reference because of he hall.

Nikki: He hall.

Salina: Right.

Salina: The good humor man.

Salina: So I think Julia's reference is literally to the nice, neighborly ICE cream man.

Salina: But it turns out there is a movie from 1950 about a good humor man who gets into shenanigans.

Salina: Just in case you all are interested.

Salina: But what I actually came here today to talk about.

Salina: This is the only thing you came.

Nikki: To talk about today.

Salina: Selena.

Salina: Sidebar at the end?

Salina: No.

Salina: I stumbled across an artifice from our childhood that instantly, like, I instantly remembered it but had completely forgotten it until I laid eyes on it.

Nikki: Strawberry shortcake ICE cream.

Salina: Well, that's featured a good humor commercial from 1996 doing a song to Scatman.

Salina: And I'm going to have to look at this.

Salina: Oh, it's in our familiar blog post.

Nikki: Okay.

Salina: And I figured if you were okay with it, we could link to it in our show notes and blog post.

Salina: But yeah, go look at it because I was like transported back to being.

Nikki: Like eleven years old.

Salina: Interesting skillet about scat manning tooth cool.

Salina: Lyn Deaton spyline spy line is the book that bill is reading.

Nikki: Oh.

Salina: Since I paused it and I was able to read it, I looked it up.

Salina: It's a spy novel.

Salina: There's like a bunch of them.

Salina: We don't have to go into that.

Salina: So that's all I got.

Nikki: Oh, shoot.

Nikki: I was looking at the kid humor man commercial.

Nikki: So next episode, season five, episode 23.

Nikki: Four.

Nikki: We'd love everyone to follow along with what?

Salina: Because it sounds like you.

Salina: 23.

Salina: I mean, four.

Nikki: No, sorry.

Nikki: Episode 23 entitled Four.

Nikki: We'd love everyone to follow along with us and engage Instagram and Facebook at sweet tntv TikTok at sweettvpod.

Nikki: Our YouTube is at sweettv 7371.

Nikki: Our email address is

Nikki: And our website is

Nikki: There are several ways you can support the show please, please tell your family and friends about us.

Nikki: Rate or review the podcast wherever you listen, and then you can visit that website and click on the support us tab for more options.

Salina: Support us.

Nikki: Support us.

Nikki: Wait.

Nikki: For the love of God, save me from myself.

Salina: Save me from my day job.

Salina: Kidding, kidding, kidding.

Nikki: And now you got me laughing, Selena, which is perfect for Thursday's extra sugar segment, which I'm calling from belly laughs to belly flops.

Nikki: An ode to America's funniest home videos.

Salina: Oh, I thought you were going to call it America's funniest shot in the nuts.

Nikki: No, but there are those.

Nikki: It is, as it sounds, an ode to this american classic.

Nikki: And I am very grateful to Bernice for dropping it as a reference so that I could do this entire segment.

Salina: I was very grateful, too, because then I didn't have to do an extra.

Nikki: Tell us how you really feel, Selena.

Nikki: You'll be involved.

Nikki: Oh, yes, you'll be.

Salina: God, is it going to be America's funniest shots in mine?

Nikki: We're going to line you up against the wall, and I'm going to throw stuff at you and see what's the funniest.

Salina: I mean, it might be kind of funny.

Nikki: Kind of would be hilarious.

Salina: It would be.

Salina: All right, well, you know what that means.

Nikki: What does it mean, Selena?

Salina: Well, it sounds like I'm about to get a tomato to the face, but also it means that we'll see you around the bend by.


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